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View Poll Results: Was the War in Iraq part of the war on terrorism?
Yes, it has reduced the risk of terrorism 77 32.91%
No, it has actually created a new source for terrorism in the world 157 67.09%
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:01 PM
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Default The US war is the terror.

The unprovoked US-led attack on Iraq is a crusade of domination. The US war on terror is Orwellian doublespeak, the truth being that the US war on terror is a war OF terror. In other words, the war IS the terror. The reality is that the US is the worlds leading terrorist state.
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As many others have artfully stated, I truly believe that this unauthorized "war" has simply created more terrorists.

This may not be the best example, but imagine if the United Nations sent armed forces into the U.S. because they felt that we may use our atomic weapons (WMD's we do have) inappropriately, that we mistreat some of our citizens (racial tension, religious intolerance), and that our election process gave an unfair bias to certain groups (dems/repubs versus libertarian or communist). I am sure there would be plenty of us who would rise up against this, and take whatever action (including acts that would be seen as terrorism) we felt was necessary to repel these "invaders."

After a certain point, those who come as "liberators" wear out their welcome, and are then seen as invaders.
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we're fighting a war against terrorists (radical islamic extremist type).
in war, you go after supply lines.
iraq was a supply line, supplying money to palestinian terrorists, and allowing terrorists to train on their soil.
we also knew iraq had WMDs in the past,
and we can't take the chance anything like that enters the terrorists supply line.

so 'yes' , the war in iraq IS part of the war on terror.
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The unprovoked US-led attack on Iraq is a crusade of domination. The US war on terror is Orwellian doublespeak, the truth being that the US war on terror is a war OF terror. In other words, the war IS the terror. The reality is that the US is the worlds leading terrorist state.
The best doublespeak is always the one that accuses others of doublespeak.
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Well haven't read the whole thread but I would not over complacate the situation. The hole world now know that if you attack the US we will overthrow / destroy anyone who remotely looks responsible and maybe use it as an excuse to settle some old scores for the (*)(*)(*)(*)s and grins of it.

This is a very good thing.
Why do you think Osama and Alquida have not struck the US again - How hard is that. Its because the Pakistanis have told him look sport we don't need the trouble and these GeenGos have a lot more money and weapons than you. Its Simple
It simply boils down to the Really BIG STICK theory
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President Bush is CONSTANTLY talking about the war on terror and the war in Iraq as the same thing. He then is saying that if you disagree with the war in Iraq, then you must conversely be soft on terrorism or are appeasing terrorists, etc. The question is that if the former Iraqi regime had no known links to international terrorist acts, how can the war in Iraq be part of the war on terrorism.
The war on terror will never be won. It doesn't matter how many terrorists you kill, or how long you stay in Iraq, you cannot win the war on terror, for the simple reason that there will ALWAYS be terrorists.
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Before the invasion their was no terrorists in Iraq, Saddam was pretty effective in suppressing them, especially the Shia organizations in the South. Even now the Iraqi Ministry of Information estimates that 80% of the insurgency is home grown. Al queda in Iraq started out as just a bunch of sacked former soldiers and civil servants who wanted to cash in on the world-known name of AQ, the same thing happened in Algeria, Somalia, Afghanistan etc. It's unfortunate because it gives off the false impression that AQ is a centralized international organization with a rigid command and direction, when in fact it's the same as it was 10 years ago - ie people fighting over local problems using big names for groups to make their petty squabbles seem more important, African rebel groups have been doing this for decades, it's how they got the US involved in helping so many stupid causes.
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Personally, I don't believe it is a war on terrorism. I believe its a war on Islam. First of all, I am not a Muslim, and I don't think any American, Australian or English troops should have entered Iraq. All this has caused is innocent lives being lost, homes destroyed, countries destroyed etc. And there is still is no peace in the middle east.
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