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this is israel's partner in peace!? what would be the definition of an enemy?
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dozens of Gazans are dead thanks to Israel.

and you wonder why there are rockets flying into Israel?

BTW, Israel called for a holocaust against the Gazans.
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this is israel's partner in peace!? what would be the definition of an enemy?
Someone who bulldozed your homes and shot your citizens?
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People blame the Palestinians as the source of all evil.

People blame Israel for the Palestinians actions.

Truth is both sides have done a lot to exacerbate the situation from the 6-Day War on.

Israel no innocent in provocative acts and human rights violations and the Palestinians have no reliable spokesman who can control them and speak for them.

Israel has a right to security and not have it's citizens living under the constant threat of bombing, just as any other country does.

The Palestinians have a right to a viable homeland, economy and security - whether it's enfranchised and equal citizens of Israel or an independent Palestine.
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Israel has a right to security and not have it's citizens living under the constant threat of bombing, just as any other country does.

The Palestinians have a right to a viable homeland, economy and security - whether it's enfranchised and equal citizens of Israel or an independent Palestine.
israel doesn't have the obligation to absorb a large hostile population who main religion contains racist hatred toward the jews.

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The Palestinians have a right to a viable homeland, economy and security
yes, the palestinian homeland needs to be self reliant. independent of israel for its infrastructural needs, such a electricity and water.

there was a time when un res. 194 had a place, but now we have generational hatred established.

united nations resolution 194

[quote]11. Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible;

http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/906...a!OpenDocument

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the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date..
making the second clause the only option.

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that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible;
since the surrounding arab countries are the responsible parties for initiating events which devolved into this debacle, they pay!


it also needs to be remembered that part of this destructive mix was the displacement of some 930,000 jews that lived in arab countries pre '48 and were dispossessed. they are the sephardi jew that now comprises the largest majority of jews in israel.

from hamas covenant:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it"

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).


http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/mideast/hamas.htm
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this is israel's partner in peace!? what would be the definition of an enemy?

Someone who bulldozed your homes and shot your citizens?
what, not a militant amongst them!? not one weapons smuggling tunnel!?

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