If you think Bush beat McCain on this you're an idiot as NO DETAILS WHATSOEVER HAVE BEEN RELEASED OTHER THAN ITS A COMPROMISE. Sound more like JP5's beloved Bushasaurs caved faster than a chinese coal mine.

The proof is in the pudding and so far no one knows what's in that pudding.

But you just know no matter how big a loser Bush is on this so-called "compromise", that JP5 will claim victory. She just never admits defeat even after she's been arguing in here for more than the past week for what Bush has surely given up on. But she'll follow Tony Snow's line, claim victory, be laughed at as a braying arse and go on in her imaginary George in Wonderland fantasy world.

Probably no waterboarding. Certainly no revisions of the Geneva Convention Code General Article 3. Probably no secret evidence not shared with the defendants' and their counsels.

Bush tried to play hardball, enlisted all his foolish minions of the devil promoting torture, and then got butch-slapped by McCain, Warner and Powell. Then Bush tried to be conciliatory. If Bush comes out the winner on this, then I don't know John McCain as well as I think I do.