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Wait. After all this time you want to break off from the current countries you're in to form some kind of new Prussia?

Didn't prussia sort of made Germany? You'd think you'd be ingrained with it. It seems sort of like some American states trying to become British colonies. Or did it go down differently?

The Germany Prussia build and the Germany we have today are not comparable to each other, the Kaisereich was a confederation in which all members retained their own flag, political autonomy, and their own army. Many German have still strong feelings for Prussia, those with a little historical knowledge know that life became constantly worse since the end of ww1, the end of the rule by the Prussian kings which constituted the German kaisers.

The current government is is a bunch of traitors who want to sell the little autonomy we have still left to the centralized monster in Brussels! No thanks! Either an independent Prussia or an reorganized Germany in form of a confederation offering autonomy for it's member states!
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Are you Prussians even ethnically distinct at this point? Could people from outside the region even tell you apart.

I must say from time on this forum I've gained a lot more appreciation for how unique the "melting pot" of the US is. You Europeans mix like oil and water when from my point of view you're like skim and 2% milk. And yet you still won't mix!

Anyway is Prussian independence a serious thing like the Albanians or Basques or just something remembered but you aren't about to light anything on fire?
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Are you Prussians even ethnically distinct at this point? Could people from outside the region even tell you apart.

Not since ww2 and the Prussian diaspora that fallowed, before that we were slightly distinct. The first Prussians came into existence when Germanic pagans around 800a.d. settled in the area at the eastern Baltic see that came later to be known as East Prussia and intermingled with the Baltic minority there.

But well, that was 1200 years ago, I'm Germanic-Celtic, a central European.


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I must say from time on this forum I've gained a lot more appreciation for how unique the "melting pot" of the US is. You Europeans mix like oil and water when from my point of view you're like skim and 2% milk. And yet you still won't mix!

Because there is no benefit in mixing! We like it to be diverse, having different languages, different architecture, different food, that's what makes Europe such a great place! That's why the EU is poison!


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Anyway is Prussian independence a serious thing like the Albanians or Basques or just something remembered but you aren't about to light anything on fire?

The discontent with the current order of things is steadily growing and that not just in Germany but in the rest of Europe as well, at this point there is no say what the future may brings.
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I consider it (=Danzig) as occupied territory, stealing something and giving it new names no one can spell without breaking his tongue is no legitimate way to transfer property and ownership rights!
I agree, the Oder-Neisse line (the border between Germany and Polen) is really scandalous. After WW II more than 14 million Germans/Volksdeutsche/Prussians were expelled from East-Europe to Germany. Memelland was annexed by Lithuania, Ostpreußen is now known as Kaliningrad and annexed by Russia. It's regrettable that due to these expulsions the amount of Germans/Volksdeutsche/Prussians in their former Eastern lands became expendable. So how could you win it back?

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Because there is no benefit in mixing! We like it to be diverse, having different languages, different architecture, different food, that's what makes Europe such a great place! That's why the EU is poison!
Yankees can't understand that. Consequences of globalization

Europeans stick to tradition and diversity. History as well. Americans don't understand that because they lack history and want to differ themselves from Europeans who they directly descend from. That's why they try so hard to impose the "American way of life" which turns a human into a slave of money. No value comes before money, considering them. But it's not people's fault. It's their selfish capitalists who desire a one-government world and direct control of its economy. The EU is not a bad thing, considering open borders and unique market. But it will become if old Europa starts looking like Uncle Sam. But I predict the dissolution of EU before reaching their overseas friend's desires. Even EU politicians know that. Strong conservative and nationalist parties are getting stronger every day all over Europe.
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Prussians are a German people, I'm a Prussian first and a German second.

Prussian > German > European
Well we have idiots in the US also and some of them are Texans first Americans scond tO BAD!!
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The EU is not a bad thing, considering open borders and unique market. But it will become if old Europa starts looking like Uncle Sam. But I predict the dissolution of EU before reaching their overseas friend's desires. Even EU politicians know that. Strong conservative and nationalist parties are getting stronger every day all over Europe.
I'm actually sick of open boarders, I would like to have enforced boarders back! Open boarders are very good for organized crime but very bad when it comes to security and social stability. And well, once those Marxists in Brussels have managed to get their constitution through, currently called "Lisbon Treaty" is their newest attempt, I doubt that there will be a chance to stop the new Babylon apart from a full scale revolution.


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Well we have idiots in the US also and some of them are Texans first Americans scond tO BAD!!
That's simply the natural hierarchy of things, first I'm a member of my family and secondly a member of the community I live. Family comes before community and community before state. The closer or smaller groups one is part of always naturally stand in the group hierarchy before the next greater group. That's the natural order of things rooted in our genes.


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I agree, the Oder-Neisse line (the border between Germany and Polen) is really scandalous. After WW II more than 14 million Germans/Volksdeutsche/Prussians were expelled from East-Europe to Germany. Memelland was annexed by Lithuania, Ostpreußen is now known as Kaliningrad and annexed by Russia. It's regrettable that due to these expulsions the amount of Germans/Volksdeutsche/Prussians in their former Eastern lands became expendable. So how could you win it back?

By using the means we have to our disposal. In case they are not open for reason I would cut any trade relations and economical support for the Slavs and all of Eastern Europe so to basically starve them out till they agree to our rightful demands for I see no reason why we should feed and support people still occupying our land. Our role as export nation we could use to compel other nations in close trade relationship with us to support our economical blockade against Eastern Europe till they eventually will have no choice but to return out territory.

The world is currently run by primitive who believe that the only working policy is to bomb anything standing in their way to the ground but there are a lot other more civilized means to reach desired results which are not depending on bombs.
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