1) If Cheney ever comes forward and says we do waterboard procedures on terrorists thats fine. I already hate him enough, but for him to go back after acknowledging what we are doing as "waterboarding" and introduce the word 'dunking' instead--which is a wee bit more humane, that infuriates me. Make up your mind, scumbag!

2) I care. I dont think we should lower ourselves to their standards. We are not likely to extract reliable information if we get any at all. And at the expense of our dignity and integrity? Thats fine if you want to take a 300 year step back, but the rest of us want to move up and forward.

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