Originally Posted by Hard-Driver";p=&quot

My point that BEFORE killing thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people. Thousands of whom are innocent woman and children. Killing hundreds and hundreds of Americans. Shouldn't there be an HONEST explaination. I will agree that Iraq is better off. I will agree that a democratic Iraq is a good thing. (if it happens). But when the President went before congress, when he gave the State of teh Union, when Powell went before the UN, the speach was not that we need to help the Iraqi people. The speach was that they are a threat to give WOMD to terrorists that will use them to kill Americans. That is WHY we went to war supposidly. The more evidence that comes out, the more that we realize that the intelligence to support those type of statements was sketchy, and filled with disclaimers and caveats and downright unreliable. Then in hindsight as we look at it it turns out to be most likely be wrong and that there was NO threat of Iraq giving WOMD to terrorists for many reasons. First they look like they probably didn't even have any. And if they did, they had no link to terrorist groups who wanted to attack America.

So people can talk about support for Palistinean bombers, or liberation or any other revisionist justification they like. The TRUTH is that we went to war without proper justification. There are many who love to thump their chest about our power and watch the smart bombs kill with glee. But war is not supposed to be based on personal grudges, or unsubstanciated claims. It is solely justified to contain a threat to us or our allies.

Afganistan was a war on terror. It was a just and appropriate response to 9/11. Finding and killing terrorists is a justified response. When the armed preditor plane takes out a car full of terrorists that is justified. But Iraq was not justified and has taken almost all of the resources that should be being used to find and kill terrorists and instead sucked them into a black hole costing lives and money but providing no benefit to America.

That is wrong. And this wrong is not a oops, it will cost a few million dollars. This is a wrong that is costing hundreds of American children a parent. It is killing without justification. (also known as murder) It is also costing billions. (another lie when it was said that it would not cost anything)

My point is whatever the revisionist spin. The war was presented without sufficent cause. And as such, this President should be held accoutable. I personally think he should go to jail. At least be impeached. Certainly not elected again.