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I liked the part about the diplomacy.

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In addition to calling for Guantanamo's closure, all five agreed that the United States should talk to its enemies, including Iran.

"We have to understand what diplomacy is really about," Albright said. "It's talking to your enemy."

The United States should not "see diplomacy as appeasement, which is what's happening," Albright said. "How we dig ourselves out of Iraq, and a bad reputation, has to do with using all the tools."
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We are not going to simply turn these people loose on society without a trial. In October of 2006 the President had asked for....and received......new legislation called the Military Commissions Act of 2006 that provided for these people to be tried in a military court. The bill passed the Senate 65 to 34, meaning many Democrats signed it:


President Bush, Oct 2006: "The bill I'm about to sign also provides a way to deliver justice to the terrorists we have captured. In the months after 9/11, I authorized a system of military commissions to try foreign terrorists accused of war crimes. These commissions were similar to those used for trying enemy combatants in the Revolutionary War and the Civil War and World War II. Yet the legality of the system I established was challenged in the court, and the Supreme Court ruled that the military commissions needed to be explicitly authorized by the United States Congress.

And so I asked Congress for that authority, and they have provided it. With the Military Commission Act, the legislative and executive branches have agreed on a system that meets our national security needs. These military commissions will provide a fair trial, in which the accused are presumed innocent, have access to an attorney, and can hear all the evidence against them. These military commissions are lawful, they are fair, and they are necessary. "

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0061017-1.html


What did Powell, Allbright and the others propose doing with all these prisoners; these bad guys?
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BTW, you'll get your wish next January either way. Hillary, Obama and McCain and all 3 said they'd close Gitmo on their first day in office. McCain seeks to move them all into Kansas' Leavenworth.....something that Kansans may have a huge problem with. Not to mention the prison only hold 500 maximum and has 450 inmates now. So, seems as though McCain hasn't thought that one through just yet. Hillary and Obama simply want to move them into our country's federal court systems.....which will be a nightmare. So, you'll soon find out why Pres. Bush is right and they are all wrong!! You'll be soon wishing you could go back to the good ole days of Club Gitmo and miltary tribunals.
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Albright is a lib.

Powell is still smarting for being made to look like an idiot by the CIA.

Kissinger and Baker jointly deserve the Chutzpah of the Decade award for such an emmission.

Baker was on the Iraq Study Group, whose 3/07 pronunciation that the Iraq situation was deteriorating looks foolish now.

Kissinger is beyond the pale with this advocacy. Among many other amazing feats, Kissinger engineered the so-called vietnam "peace accords", after which came the collapse of south vietnam.

He was involved in the coup which deposed Allende in Chile, and played footsie with an Argentine general after he executed a coup in that country (same one who invaded the Falklands).

Kissinger also helped install the marxist dictator Mugabe in zimbabwe, who remains till this day in that position.

The article doesn't offer any reasons by this uh..."distinguished" group why gitmo should be closed, or what is to be done with the islamofascists held there.
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bad guys?
Yeah, the problem with calling them 'bad guys' aside from the description being completely juvenile, is that many, more than a 5th of detainees, have been cleared of any wrongdoing.

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Of the nearly 400 detainees, 60 to 80 are facing potential charges for violations of the law of war
What's the deal with rest of them?


A 5th are not bad guys at all, just caught at the wrong place at the wrong time, or was a rival of a warlord we decided we liked...

And, all but 80, are not even facing potential charges.


What kind of system is that in the beacon of hope for democracy and freedom?


The only way we could ever lose the war against terrorists is by abandoning our system of law and justice; by acting more like terrorists.
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Go look at the thread you keep linking, my friend.
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