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Is this Speechless series is an expose on an overt attack on a certain community in our country that threatens our 1st Amendment rights, or a justifiable suppression of "hate speech" in the name of tolerance.

I would like to hear from you on this series.

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It is actually an ongoing struggle world-wide for several religions. When you see these programmed students post that "all religion is bad", I view that as an attack on all religion.
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Is this Speechless series is an expose on an overt attack on a certain community in our country that threatens our 1st Amendment rights, or a justifiable suppression of "hate speech" in the name of tolerance.

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I do think things are moving toward repression of Christians. When a public school teacher was fired for merely having his personal Bible in his desk for reading on his own time, religious freedom is infringed. Plenty of other examples as well of this advance. I am against Christians enforcing their religion on everyone, but I am more concerned at this point with the progress of the athiests enforcing their religion. Its also strange that while the liberals and athiests fight against any public expression of Christianity, they are defending the utterly evil ideology of islam with seemingly endless passion.
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I do think things are moving toward repression of Christians. When a public school teacher was fired for merely having his personal Bible in his desk for reading on his own time, religious freedom is infringed. Plenty of other examples as well of this advance. I am against Christians enforcing their religion on everyone, but I am more concerned at this point with the progress of the athiests enforcing their religion. Its also strange that while the liberals and athiests fight against any public expression of Christianity, they are defending the utterly evil ideology of islam with seemingly endless passion.
Your defense of Christianity in a thread on religious freedom is laughable since you won't extend the same courtesy to Islam.

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Is this Speechless series is an expose on an overt attack on a certain community in our country that threatens our 1st Amendment rights, or a justifiable suppression of "hate speech" in the name of tolerance.
I think suppressing speech in the name of tolerance is absurd, ironic, and un-American. I would rather hear hate speech 24 hours a day than risk losing my rights to express myself publicly as I wish.

Personally, I find organized religion stupid, and it's followers are generally sheeplike idiots, but if this is the only way to keep them out of trouble, then I support their rights to practice their beliefs as long as those rights don't infringe on my own rights to get away from their craziness.

And yeah, Christians are being "repressed" or "oppressed" to about the same degree as upper income white men are. Cry me a f'ing river. Poor babies.

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It is actually an ongoing struggle world-wide for several religions. When you see these programmed students post that "all religion is bad", I view that as an attack on all religion.
You mean, when somebody posts an opinion against religion, he is attacking religious freedom? In a sense, wouldn't you agree that, to tell people how bad they are by attacking religious freedom, you are, in essence, attacking them? They have a viewpoint too, you know. I have no problem with people of ANY religion stating their beliefs, and nobody should be trying to repress them. By the same token, those who choose not to believe in any religion should have the same right. Both religious and non religious viewpoints are viewpoints (who would have thunk it?), and both sides have the right to be heard without the other side attempting to stifle them.
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I think suppressing speech in the name of tolerance is absurd, ironic, and un-American. I would rather hear hate speech 24 hours a day than risk losing my rights to express myself publicly as I wish.

Personally, I find organized religion stupid, and it's followers are generally sheeplike idiots, but if this is the only way to keep them out of trouble, then I support their rights to practice their beliefs as long as those rights don't infringe on my own rights to get away from their craziness.

And yeah, Christians are being "repressed" or "oppressed" to about the same degree as upper income white men are. Cry me a f'ing river. Poor babies.

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So the majority is not entitled to the same rights as the minority? Hitler would love you!

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I do think things are moving toward repression of Christians. When a public school teacher was fired for merely having his personal Bible in his desk for reading on his own time, religious freedom is infringed.
No, that teacher is a servant of the State, and the State has no official religious orientation, it is neutral and takes the side of no religion over another, it is therefore secular. As such having an employee of the secular state with material contrary to it's secular formation is a dangerous position and endangers the neutrality of the State in religious matters.

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Plenty of other examples as well of this advance. I am against Christians enforcing their religion on everyone, but I am more concerned at this point with the progress of the athiests enforcing their religion.
Here's the difference, being religious requires blind faith in something that cannot be scientifically proven. Atheism is recognition of everything that can be scientifically proven.

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Its also strange that while the liberals and athiests fight against any public expression of Christianity, they are defending the utterly evil ideology of islam with seemingly endless passion.
Since when? I for one oppose all reactionary religious beliefs, Christianity, Judaism and Islam included.
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So the majority is not entitled to the same rights as the minority? Hitler would love you!
Again, Christians should have the same rights as everybody else, but those rights should not extend to attempting to legislate morality to the rest of us. The failure in that approach can be seen in people like Larry Craig, Ted Haggard, Tim Foley..... Do I need to go on? I don't believe the storage capacity of this forum can hold all of the other names.

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