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Depends how you define intellegence. You could be born with the potential to be the most brilliant genius of all time, but if you're never taught how to read, you're not going to write the laws of physics. Or your name.
Not being able to read does not make a genius less brilliant.

You guys keep confusing education with intelligence.
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While society may still look unintegrated in some respects- this will always be true.

Equality of Opportunity doesn't mean equality of Income or position.

Differences in Race, both physical and mental, predict what we do in fact see in Society in America (ie, Sports population vs Scientists vs Jail Stats).. and what we see on IQ tests- and why Asia's economies are soaring while resource rich Africa fails even as commodities boom.
And why we see Ivy League schools with disproportionally high amounts of Jews and Asians- more were there not reverse discrimination against them.

No amount of Affirmative action can impeach genetics- and hasn't.

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Richard Lynn, "Race Differences in Intelligence: An Evolutionary Analysis" 2006 Table 16.2 (indigenous populations)

Estimated average IQ

Arctic Peoples -------------------------- 91
East Asians ---------------------------- 105
Europeans ----------------------------- 100
Native Americans (north & south) -------- 86
Southern Asian & Northern Africans ------ 84
Bushmen (southern Africa) -------------- 54
Africans (subsaharan) ------------------- 67
Native Australians (aboriginals) ---------- 62
Southeast Asians ----------------------- 87
Pacific Islanders ------------------------ 85

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I.Q.

Jew (European, American). ..... . . . . . . . 115
Asian (in the U.S.) . . . . . . ........... .. . . 108
East Indian (from India, in the U.S.) . ..... 108
U.S. White (Northern European, Urban) ... 105
U.S. White (Southern European). ... . . ... 100
U.S. White (Rural, South) . . . . ....... .. . . 95
U.S. Black (North and West). . . .. ...... . . 90
Hispanic-American . . . . . . ......... . . . .. . 90
U.S. Black (Rural, South) . . ......... . . . . . 85
Hispanic, Illegal Immigrant . . ........ .. . . . 80
American Indian . .... . . . . ........ . . . ... . 80
Laplander . . . ........ . . . .. . ...... . . . . . 75
Australian Aborigine (full-blooded) ........ .. 70
Equatorial Guinea . . . . . . .. . ......... . . .. 59
What might be your point?
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What might be your point?
My point IS somewhat diluted by an Unintelligent response from someone ostensibly near the higher end of the scale, But is stated in the opening portion of what you quote.
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While society may still look unintegrated in some respects- this will always be true.

Equality of Opportunity doesn't mean equality of Income or position.


Differences in Race, both physical and mental, predict what we do in fact see in Society in America (ie, Sports population vs Scientists vs Jail Stats).. and what we see on IQ tests- and why Asia's economies are soaring while resource rich Africa fails even as commodities boom.
And why we see Ivy League schools with disproportionally high amounts of Jews and Asians- more were there not reverse discrimination against them.

No amount of Affirmative action can impeach genetics- and hasn't.
So your roundabout way of stating your dislike for the valid topic is to question if it has a point. Rather than being able to dispute the it. A point I clearly stated.

And is Certainly a valid topic for the Civil Rights/Race Relations section.

Explained again for those on the lower left side of the sine curve of any race...
While some might say, or notice, there isn't equality in living standard or life outcomes between races.. this doesn't mean there isn't equality of opportunity per se. And in Fact, I contend it's due in large part to Genetic intelligence difference.
This is certainly germaine to "race relations", the section topic.
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[quote=i.beletesri;474169]While society may still look unintegrated in some respects- this will always be true.

Equality of Opportunity doesn't mean equality of Income or position.

Differences in Race, both physical and mental, predict what we do in fact see in Society in America (ie, Sports population vs Scientists vs Jail Stats).. and what we see on IQ tests- and why Asia's economies are soaring while resource rich Africa fails even as commodities boom.
And why we see Ivy League schools with disproportionally high amounts of Jews and Asians- more were there not reverse discrimination against them.

No amount of Affirmative action can impeach genetics- and hasn't.

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You obviously are not Jewish - because the high IQ attributed to Jews would indicate a more in depth analysis than the one given.

However, one must decide what one values ultimately in this universe. If this is all there is then surely a high IQ as described by those of European decent would be important. However, i have another theory that is worth pondering. Why is that the planet has decided that Africans are the lowest people on earth? the ones with the least nimble minds? hmmm. I suggest that Africans are one of the smartest people on this earth simply because they are innately more spiritual. so the question is what is of more value - the worldly version of treasure in the form of a high IQ as described by Europeans, or wisdom of the soul as experienced by those of African decent? After all it was not Africans who have brought this earth to the verge of holocaust, nor is it Africans who have damaged this planet possibly beyond repair. it is not Africans who are busy killing others for oil while their own go hungry. You have to be truly at peace with yourself, and a trustworthy people to allow the vile Europeans to do what they have done to the African continent. That would never have happened in Europe because Europeans are not trustworthy and so they would not have trusted others.

Why is that Europeans have worked so avidly to hide the fact that Jesus was from what was then known as North East Africa? Or that the original Jews were African? why do Europeans pray to a blue eyed Jesus when they know it is a LIE? With such high IQs you would think they would feel good enough about themselves to pray to the true Jesus - an African Jesus. Just a thought...
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This guy refuses to tell me what Jews have invented, but they are the most intelligent, he refuses to give me an original thought a Jew has contributed, please tell us master of the West, buying governments and the media will not change that fact.
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This guy refuses to tell me what Jews have invented, but they are the most intelligent, he refuses to give me an original thought a Jew has contributed, please tell us master of the West, buying governments and the media will not change that fact.
I see you moved on from your last Proof that Jews weren't smarter "Pythagoras wasn't Jewish"..
well that almost comforting!
Except...
Just Because INtelligence and INvention start with the same 2 letters doesn't mean they are the same thing.
and in this string no less.

But now that you ask:

Robert Adler --- remote control


Zora Arkus-Duntov-- co-designer of Corvette sports car

Herman Aron --- invented the electric meter

Ralph Baer video games console
"Simon" Lodewyk van Berken scaif 1456 diamond polishing wheel

Emile Berliner --- inventor of gramophone

Samuel Blum co-inventor of laser eye surgery LASIK

Baruch Blumberg and Irving Millman ---- vaccine for Hepatitis B

Gustav Bucky radiologist bucky grid x-ray

Joel Davidson 100% solar powered vehicle
co-inventor 1954 Carl Djerassi[1], Gregory Pincus[2], and Frank Colton[3] oral contraceptive, antihistamines

Paul Eisler --- inventor of printed circuit board


Gertrude Elion anti-leukemia drugs Nobel Prize (198 in medicine zovirax
Sam Fedida inventor of Viewdata 1971
Joel Engel co-inventor of cellular technology

Joseph Friedman --- inventor of flexistraw

Dennis Gabor Holography Nobel Prize (1971) in physics


Uziel Gal "Uzi" --- sub-machine gun

Joseph Gerber phottoplotter phottocatter Gerber variable scale

Charles Ginsburg --- video tape machine


Donald Glaser bubble chamber
Noble Prize (1960) in physics
Leopold Godowsky and Leopold Mannes Kodachrome

Emanuel Goldberg contact camera Zeiss

Sylvan Goldman --- shopping cart

Peter Carl Goldmark m--- vinyl record


Bernard Gordon founder of Analogic Corporation

Ruth Handler ---- Barbie doll

Julius Hess ---- Incubator for premature babies the world's first nursery 1922

Basil Hirschowitz --- flexible endoscope


Gabriel Iddan video-camera-in-a-capsule (swallowable)

Theodore von Karman --- father of supersonic flight

Charles Kelman ---- Cataract Surgery


Rudolf Kompfner inventor of traveling wave tube

Arthur Korn[4], forerunner of the fax machine

Harold Kosoff free piston engine & battery powered baby swing
Raymond Kurzweil Reading Machine
Melvyn Jérémie Lafitte inventor of non-invasive ANS monitoring Hedy Lamarr spread-spectrum radio technology

Edwin Land ------ Polaroid camera

Robert Langer --- transdermal delivery systems


Jerome Lemelson inventor 500 patents
Levi ben Gershon inventor of Jacob's staff

Julius Lilienfeld ---- inventor of transistor 1920

Theodore Maiman ---- co-inventor of LASER

Siegfried Marcus ---- mobile gasoline combustion engine 1870


Hinda Miller co-inventor of the first sports bra
Jogbra Michel Mirowski and Morton Mower implantable cardioverter-defibrillator, or ICD


Georges Montefiore-Levi the inventor of phosphorus bronze
Pedro Nunes mathematician inventor of the Nonius

Stanford Ovshinsky amorphous solar cells

Jacob Rodrigues Pereira ---- deaf-mute language


Ron Popeil owner of Ronco; father of infomercials (Jewish father)
Jacob Rabinow inventor Vice President of CDC scanning and sorting machines

Johann Philipp Reis --- inventor of telephone (a word that Reis coined)

Robert Rines invention of sonogram sonar

Harold Rosen --- Geosynchronous Satellite

Samuel Ruben --- inventor of Duracell mercury batteries

Benjamin Rubin ---- vaccination needle

Reinhold Rudenberg ---- electron microscope


Nahum Salomon manufacturer of bicycles; saccharin industry; introduced sewing machine in England

Arthur Schawlow co-inventor of LASER MASER Nobel Prize (1981) in physics (Jewish father)

Abraham Schreiner --- cracked petroleum kerosene


Boryslaw Galicia David Schwartz inventor of Dirigible Zeppelin

Raymond Scott --- sequencer portable synthesizer

Joseph Slepian --- Westinghouse Electric Corporation --- ADR Joel Spira solid-state electronic dimmer

Leo Sternbach --- invention of Valium and Librium Hoffmann-La Roche

Levi Strauss and Jacob Davis ---- Blue Jeans


Leo Szilard co-invented nuclear fission reactor 1955),First nuclear reactor 1942, with (Enrico Fermi),Patent Electron Microscope (1931)

Max Tishler poultry disease antibiotic synthesizing of B2 Lillian Vernon catalog innovator

Selman Waksman --- streptomycin ---Nobel Prize (1952) in medicine

Joseph Weber ammonia microwave amplifier,

Paul Zoll co-inventor of external pacemaker and monitor


http://www.perspectives.com/forums/v...53&forum_id=70


Other inventions that Come to my mind include Jonas Salk, Polio Vaccine...
and Just a few years after they Gave them a Country in the Desert.....
an Israeli Kibbutz invented Drip Irrigation!
now feeding Hundreds of millions in Arid Lands (and expensive Vineyards from Australia to Austria)

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I see you moved on from your last Proof that Jews weren't smarter "Pythagoras wasn't Jewish"..
well that almost comforting!
Except...
Just Because INtelligence and INvention start with the same 2 letters doesn't mean they are the same thing.
and in this string no less.

But now that you ask:

Robert Adler, remote control

Zora Arkus-Duntov co-designer of Corvette sports car

Herman Aron, invented the electric meter

Ralph Baer video games console
"Simon" Lodewyk van Berken scaif 1456 diamond polishing wheel

Emile Berliner inventor of gramophone

Samuel Blum co-inventor of laser eye surgery LASIK

Baruch Blumberg and Irving Millman vaccine for Hepatitis B
Gustav Bucky radiologist bucky grid x-ray

Joel Davidson 100% solar powered vehicle
co-inventor 1954 Carl Djerassi[1], Gregory Pincus[2], and Frank Colton[3] oral contraceptive, antihistamines

Paul Eisler inventor of printed circuit board

Gertrude Elion anti-leukemia drugs Nobel Prize (198 in medicine zovirax
Sam Fedida inventor of Viewdata 1971
Joel Engel co-inventor of cellular technology

Joseph Friedman inventor of flexistraw

Dennis Gabor Holography Nobel Prize (1971) in physics

Uziel Gal "Uzi" sub-machine gun
Joseph Gerber phottoplotter phottocatter Gerber variable scale

Charles Ginsburg, video tape machine

Donald Glaser bubble chamber
Noble Prize (1960) in physics
Leopold Godowsky and Leopold Mannes Kodachrome

Emanuel Goldberg contact camera Zeiss

Sylvan Goldman, shopping cart

Peter Carl Goldmark, vinyl record

Bernard Gordon founder of Analogic Corporation

Ruth Handler, Barbie doll

Julius Hess, incubator for premature babies the world's first nursery 1922

Basil Hirschowitz, flexible endoscope

Gabriel Iddan video-camera-in-a-capsule (swallowable)

Theodore von Karman.. father of supersonic flight

Charles Kelman ... Cataract Surgery

Rudolf Kompfner inventor of traveling wave tube

Arthur Korn[4], forerunner of the fax machine

Harold Kosoff free piston engine & battery powered baby swing
Raymond Kurzweil Reading Machine
Melvyn Jérémie Lafitte inventor of non-invasive ANS monitoring Hedy Lamarr spread-spectrum radio technology

Edwin Land ------ Polaroid camera

Robert Langer --- transdermal delivery systems

Jerome Lemelson inventor 500 patents
Levi ben Gershon inventor of Jacob's staff

Julius Lilienfeld inventor of transistor 1920

Theodore Maiman co-inventor of LASER

Siegfried Marcus mobile gasoline combustion engine 1870

Hinda Miller co-inventor of the first sports bra
Jogbra Michel Mirowski and Morton Mower implantable cardioverter-defibrillator, or ICD

Georges Montefiore-Levi the inventor of phosphorus bronze
Pedro Nunes mathematician inventor of the Nonius

Stanford Ovshinsky amorphous solar cells

Jacob Rodrigues Pereira deaf-mute language

Ron Popeil owner of Ronco; father of infomercials (Jewish father)
Jacob Rabinow inventor Vice President of CDC scanning and sorting machines

Johann Philipp Reis inventor of telephone (a word that Reis coined)

Robert Rines invention of sonogram sonar

Harold Rosen.... geosynchronous satellite

Samuel Ruben --- inventor of Duracell mercury batteries

Benjamin Rubin ---- vaccination needle

Reinhold Rudenberg ---- electron microscope

Nahum Salomon manufacturer of bicycles; saccharin industry; introduced sewing machine in England

Arthur Schawlow co-inventor of LASER MASER Nobel Prize (1981) in physics (Jewish father)

Abraham Schreiner cracked petroleum kerosene

Boryslaw Galicia David Schwartz inventor of Dirigible Zeppelin

Raymond Scott sequencer portable synthesizer

Joseph Slepian Westinghouse Electric Corporation = ADR Joel Spira solid-state electronic dimmer

Leo Sternbach --- invention of Valium and Librium Hoffmann-La Roche

Levi Strauss and Jacob Davis ---- Blue Jeans

Leo Szilard co-invented nuclear fission reactor 1955),First nuclear reactor 1942, with (Enrico Fermi),Patent Electron Microscope (1931)

Max Tishler poultry disease antibiotic synthesizing of B2 Lillian Vernon catalog innovator

Selman Waksman --- streptomycin ---Nobel Prize (1952) in medicine
Joseph Weber ammonia microwave amplifier,

Paul Zoll co-inventor of external pacemaker and monitor


http://www.perspectives.com/forums/v...53&forum_id=70


Other inventions that Come to my mind include Jonas Salk, Polio Vaccine... and Just a few years after they made a country in the Desert..
an Israeli Kibbutz invented Drip Irrigation now feeding Hundreds of millions in Arid Lands (and expenseive Vineyards from Australia to Austria)

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yea, but what useful item have they invented

j/k ... poor effort to employ sarcasm
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Recalling a February MD visit.. I'd say the Flexible endoscope is Under-rated on that list.
I mean the alternatives!
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