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Not once except the quote you provided. In other words yes, he referred to him as a liberal. The link also shows his support for unions, a , distributing "wealth and products more equitably," his opposition to conservative democrats (and what is the opposite of conservative?), believed in a large central government, received support from progressives and liberals, faced conservative opposition (again, the opposit of conservative is?), coined the term New Deal Liberalism, helped form the next liberal experiment (Great Society), and a host of other evidence. On the other hand, you have yet to offer even a small crumb or morsel that he was anything but liberal as viewed by historians and others.
He also said and AND AND AND .
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I was referring to the historian who did the piece about Roosevelt. He was the one that stated Truman was a moderate. And you have the gall to say I couldn't even show one crumb that he wasn't liberal. I just did from your own source. Even Doug Brin drew comparisons between Ford and
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Pres Harry S Truman, calling them both both moderate, 'accidental' presidents.
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http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refere...er&match=exact
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Actually we're talking about your error riddled definition of liberal and conservative.
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No I was first talking about Clinton not being a liberal because he dropped bombs on Sudan, Iraq and other places thus saying liberals don't drop bombs. Instead of you arguing my first point you went back to WW2 Presidents. Democrat does not equal liberal. Not in my book. Also the American version of liberal is very skewed when compared to the rest of the world. Look at how many people were calling John Kerry the most far left democratic candidate.
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I don't have to, the creators of the organization themselves say they came into extistance in 1987 to fight a liberal media. The end. Unless you can find something proving the owners are lying about their reasons for creating it. I'll wait here while you prove that.
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Yes you do since the whole argument that the term was hardly ever used before a certain time then you need to show citations from those times.
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I showed you in every one of them. Your argument is they are lying. Prove it. And if mentioned even one time, that erases your argument.
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You did not show one in every one of them. I also didn't say the term was never used. I said I never heard it being used. My exact quote was :
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Not once during Clinton's reign did I ever hear the term "liberal media" nor did I hear it when Bush was taking the country to war.
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You pulled up the term once. I'm sure if one dug really deep they would find the term used a couple more times but it certainly wasn't used enough to be noticed.
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I was right because it is nearly identical to what he said. Those in the media lean liberal.
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Your original quote was "Kronkite stated the media is liberal". Kronkite said no such thing.
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The study and this post are two different issues.
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No, because you use the post to back your claims to the study. You can't have both.
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The public would be right. And all it would show is that in one instance out of a few dozen (which they accounted for and explained) the study was correct
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.But there is more than one instance.