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Old 01-22-2007, 12:50 PM
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I do not agree with "HOW" Truth-Bringer is bringing his argument about poverty but I do understand where he is coming from.
We have the exact same problem here in Canada.

You need to take a look at the reasons "WHY" people are living is supposed poverty.
I see panhandlers on the streets that are there by choice because they can make more than the minimum wage.
They can go to shelters for free housing and food. So, basically their hand outs are free and clear. No rent, no food expenses.
In the warmer weather they can sleep in the parks.
Under US laws, no one can be refused medical service if they have a life threatening condition. Am I right on that point?

Now please tell me on any cases where a homeless person actually starved to death.
There are food banks, soup kitchens, shelters, charities and even family to go to for help.
Look in any local newspaper. There are many "jobs" for people that really do want to work.
Granted they are not the greatest jobs but they are jobs.
That's where to run into the problem of the "poverty" people expecting more without actually doing more to get it.
All I'm all I'm saying is that, in Canada and the USA, the homeless and people living in poverty have resources available to them in order to survive.

Now, let's look at the other side.
You have landlords and property owners squeezing every cent they can out of tenants. They do minimum repairs to keep the properties livable.
You have governments: Federal, State, and Local; over taxing the people to line their own pocket with government pay checks and pensions.
No one can deny that there is government waste on tax money.
The bottom line is that greed is more important than showing human compassion.

Now I will ask the same question that Truth-Bringer ask. show us true poverty?

Maybe you should define the meaning of poverty.

I recently did some personal research on Mexican street children.
I suggest that both sides of this issue do a Google search on those 3 simple words.
Then you will know exactly what true poverty is.
it's the same thing that is happening all over the world to children.
Done bother telling me about drug dealers and crime and corrupt governments in Mexico and say that is the cause.
We have the same crime lords, drug dealers and corrupt governments in Canada and the USA.
The only difference is that our countries have learned to hide those people better.
The topic was poverty. Look at children around the world and then tell me that homeless people or people saying they are living in poverty in Canada and the USA are as bad or worse off than the children in Mexico and other countries around the world.

Put this topic of poverty into a true perspective.
The poor in both our countries still have more resources than any other country.
My perspective:
I have no sympathy for people only wanting hand outs and not a hand up.
I have no sympathy for the "Middle Class" crying the blues because they can not afford a nice house with the two car garage in the suburbs.
The middle class is crying that illegal immigrants are taking their jobs and lowering their wages.
How come they are doing that? Really?
1) Because "LEGAL" Americans are hiring them.
2) Because the middle class will not do the same jobs until they get paid enough to keep there house in the suburbs.

Just spend 5 minutes and do a Google search on street children.
Not homeless adults: CHILDREN.
It's time Canada and the USA to take a serious REALITY check on what poverty REALLY is.
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