The military is overwhelmingly pro victory! No one can dispute that!

You would be confused if you thought the military didnt overwhelmingly believe in their mission in Iraq.!

You should learn to explain why Im wrong!

You mean like myself and CDP who are both active duty marines that have made deployments to Iraq and both claim that the military ovewhelmingly believes in the mission there? Trust me. Our first objective is to keep eachother alive on any patrol. However we never fail to accomplish the mission! Nor do we fail to believe in what were doing!

I never said foreign policy should be dictated by people like myself. Prove I did.

March 26, 2008

Biggest Mistake

I heard on the radio the other day that morons are claiming that the Iraqi War was the biggest blunder of President Bush's presidency. Wow, are these guys the most ungrateful, unfocused, un-American people or what? It was a mistake, they say, to invade Iraq. Hell, let's wrap Afghanistan in that too then. It was a mistake to remove a dictator that kills off his own people to make a point. It was a mistake to stop the possible onslaught of T-72 tanks pushing into Saudi Arabia back in the Gulf War. Ok, all you cry baby bleeding hearts out there who are going to get on your soap box now and tell me we came "here", for oil and the Honorable President Bush is doing this for money and bla, blabla, bla. Save your breath. If that is your foundation for your argument, you have so missed the mark. You need to stop believing everything you READ in your bed wetting newspaper and talk to those who have done something in coordination to change things. Yes, it must have also been a mistake to free the innocent Iraqi citizens who would not conform to the insurgent way of life. C'mon you know, they are the ones chained in underground torture chambers, electrocuted, whipped because they tried to resist. Families slaughtered in front of them. What? Didn't you read that in your paper? That's a mistake. It must have been a mistake to have US boots on the ground and in cities like Ramadi and Fallujah to push out thug killers and eventually have shops reopen and kids to go back to school. Yes, of course, it was a mistake to stop those silly killers beheading innocent people, taking over tribes and continuing basic barbaric routines at will. I will tell you what is a mistake, you believing that bull(*)(*)(*)(*)! Until you grab a 3 year old kid up out of the dirt as (*)(*)(*)(*) is hitting the fan, you have no idea what a mistake is. Until you are hugged by an Iraqi grown man because your presence alone means he will see the sun rise again is a mistake. Not being able to know how your basic Iraqi family tries to survive, lives, earns a day wages is a mistake. I know you finger pointers are all of sudden CNN war analysts. Do you even know any of the cultural systems of Iraq? No? That's a mistake. Know that before you decide to tell us how the president made "The Biggest Blunder". To see the entire Iraqi country rotate, change and evolve into a productive state, building its economy and living without the fear of any of the prior is no mistake or blunder. Not hearing about how well Iraq is doing now with your warriors' support and the ones who have been here before is a huge freaking mistake. If you feel that Iraq and all of the good work overhear has resulted into a "Big Blunder", I'll meet you in Kuwait, bring you north and introduce you to a few families that may disagree. Your call, but I would think twice about calling our success in Iraq a "Big Blunder" especially in front of any servicemember who has spent time here. That will be a big mistake.

Just One Marines View:

http://www.onemarinesview.com/one_marines_view/

At the risk of getting into a pissing match Ill use open sources.I too however know a few soldiers/Marines currently or formerly serving in both iraq and Afghanistan.To imply these guys have no other emotion besides survival is shortsighted and not accurate IMHO.They know whats being said about them make no mistake.They take pride in their work.They know the stakes.They are the best ones to determine the outcome.The reason I think were 'winning' is because they tell me so.Thats good enough for me.

Unless he makes the mistake of being within three blocks of some Blackwater dudes

And Iraq is Bush's biggest blunder.

That's your job.

You are trained and paid to engross yourself into accomplishing the mission set out for you. If as part of that, you accept what you are doing as the "right thing" that's better for you. It makes you a better soldier, in my opinion.

Again though, it doesn't matter what you think. I think if you affect the life of a few people there in a positive way, then it's a great accomplishment and you can see the good that comes from your being there. But we can't look at it from those terms -- from that point of view. Just because you feel it's a good mission, doesn't mean it's right for the country as a whole. And by "the country", I mean the US. I don't care about Iraq before the US, though my humanity does try to make me understand.

The problem inherently here is that as soon as we leave it's going to be a civil war. And we can't stay forever. So why are we slowly bleeding soldiers and hemorrhaging money to stay? I'm sorry, I cannot get behind that idea. Even if we do have a positive affect (and I believe that we do), I think that we need to teach Iraqis how to "fish" so to speak, so they can eat for the rest of their lives.

Right now, we are doling out the basic jobs of their country to 3rd party contracters in the US (driving trucks, operating cranes and machinery, etc) instead of giving them to the Iraqis. And don't think that Iraqis don't see that. That's exactly why there will be a civil war -- because people want that power for themselves. Plain and simple.