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Moishe, do you still insist that the majority of Palestinians immigrated to the "conflict area" at the turn of the last century (your original thesis) or for that matter at any other time?
That is the essence of the myth.
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Nope.
That's not what you wrote above.
As you previously noted, I have given up trying to convince y'all on that argument. I find the numbers specious and you believe yours, I believe mine, and never the twain shall meet.
So, no, I do not "insist." I do find y'all's beliefs illogical, but as I am not going to endlessly crunch numbers for mutual stupeficaction, I will pass forever more on this argument.
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But Moishe you have not come up with any numbers only spurious arguments and hearsay that you believe. No evidence of any kind to back your claims.
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Eh? No, they were required to co-exist peaceably with the State of Israel. As those that left Israel in '48 and '49 owed their allegiances to an Arab world that was hostile to Israel, those that commanded their allegiances were responsible to absorb them...
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Those that had non aggression pacts with the Zionists ended up being expelled.
Abdullah took up Faysal’s pro Jewish stance and continued with a positive attitude towards the growing Jewish community in Palestine. In 1922 he met Chaim Weizman in London.
The Palestinian Arabs were in opposition to the Zionist settlements in Palestine.
Faysal once he was ensconced in Baghdad lost interest in the Jewish affairs up to his death in 1931.
An explanation for Abdullah’ lack of “anti-Semitism” is that his national interest lay with the Zionists causes; he had expansionist ideals (the West Bank). His attitude was confrontational to the Palestinian Nationalist movement aspirations. Abdullah’s unique position towards Israel can be seen during the 1936-1939 Palestinian Arab revolt when it was suggested by the British that Abdullah annex the densely Arab populated areas to Jordan as introduced by the Peel commission.
This annexation became a cornerstone of the Jewish agency and Jordanian Policy.
With the adoption of this Policy the opinions of the British Palestinians, US and the Arab league were ignored. Only with the ending of the Mandate did the British support Abdullah in his and the Jewish agency policy.
Abdullah probably would have absorbed them even though he did not command their allegiances if the annexation had occurred. Israel did not want to allow passage through to the Mediterranean Sea and linking to Gaza. It would have been in Israel’s interest not to create a hostile civilian population on their doorstep. But Israel decided that not backing down would produce better results. It looks like the Israelis made a bad choice. |
We went throught this before. You choose to believe that the population growth in Israel was a natural process based on simple population growth I cited stats that say it wasn't.
The main stat is the overwhelmingly huge growth as compared to Asia or anywhere else in the rest of the world.
We are not going to agree on this, so, you win.
