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They don't really prove anything, but that is okay.
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Actually, they prove quite a bit. And you can't refute those facts. But that is okay.
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I don't know if you realize this, but Saddam is disarmed, deposed, and very dead.
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Meanwhile the insurgency and the civil war are armed, dangerous, and very alive. I don't know if you, or any Neocons, truly realize that. |
Perhaps a good blood letting is exactly what the insurgents want.
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This is very different from Vietnam.
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Not very different. They're both guerilla wars. And we can't secure Iraq just as we couldn't secure Vietnam because of that very fact.
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I believe the US won every battle in Vietnam. I haven't seen them retreat in Iraq.
I guess it depends on who believe more.
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He would probably tell the terrorists to stop killing people.
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Actually, he'd probably ask the terrorist why they're killing people, instead of just shooting at them. Then, he'd actually listen to them. Then, he'd probably ask the U.S. why we have to have military bases in Saudi Arabia - part of the reason why the terrorists say they're attacking us.
He might also ask military and government officials why they sold weapons to Saddam and gave him millions of dollars.
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Jesus never opposed Roman occupation, and he didn't oppose paying the Roman tax which was used to fund their war machine.
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He would probably heal the wounded, feed the hungry, and provide comfort to those suffering.
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He would probably try to get to the root cause of the problem and end the suffering. Which would mean speaking to all sides and understanding all the grievances involved. He wouldn't just treat the symptoms - he'd try to cure the disease.
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It was never his goal to end suffering.
He healed those who believed, and wanted to be healed.
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He would certainly befriend our troops.
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He would befriend the insurgents also - he would "love his enemy." And while he might be friendly with the troops - he would certainly never join them.
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The meaning was lost in translation. That kind of love is more like a respect rather than affection.
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He would definitely preach.
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Yes, but would Bush listen?
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Would you listen?
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Jesus is not Ghandi, and Ghandi is not Jesus.
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Didn't say he was. But they were both religious men and both believed in the principles of non-violence, first and foremost, before ever having to resort to violence.
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Jesus served God first and foremost. He came to serve. He did not come to bring peace.
Stop the confusing the two.
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I do enjoy talking to people with ZERO comprehension of who Jesus was.
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No wonder you like to listen to Bush speak...
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I still think it is ZERO.