Iran supporting the insurgency? - Page 2

C-D-P · #11 (**permalink**) 04-21-2008, 11:36 AM

Additionally, I would not be surprised if those weapons have not been destroyed by now.

Tuatara · #12 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 11:00 AM

Just found this.
Iraq: No Evidence Iran Is Arming Shiites

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A top Iraqi official said Sunday there was no "conclusive" evidence that Shiite extremists have been directly supplied with some Iranian arms as alleged by the United States.

Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said Iraq does not want trouble with any country, "especially Iran."

Al-Dabbagh was commenting on talks this week in Tehran between an Iraqi delegation and Iranian authorities aimed at halting suspected Iranian aid to some Shiite militias.

Asked about reports that some rockets made in 2007 or 2008 and seized in raids against militias were directly supplied by Iran, al-Dabbagh replied: "There is no conclusive evidence." ...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4069224.shtml
Also of note..,

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...there’s the team of Da’wa (the party of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki) and the former Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (which runs most of the country’s security services). Both SCIRI and Da’wa have decades-deep connections to Iran. “Shiite rivals, particularly the party loyal to the cleric Moktada al-Sadr, regularly accuse the Supreme Council of being a tool of the Iranian intelligence service. The party’s top officials, including its leader, Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, lived in Iran for decades and still frequently return,” the Times observes.

“SCIRI was essentially created by Iran, and its militia, the Badr Brigade, was trained and equipped by the Revolutionary Guards,” Council on Foreign Relations Iran scholar Ray Takeyh notes in the current Middle East Journal.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/arc...basra_team-up/

The thought that the Iranians would be helping out militias against their own Badr Brigade is ludicrous.
And yet another story

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The Iraqi government backed away yesterday from accusations of Iranian interference, saying it had appointed a committee to determine whether there is merit to US charges that its eastern neighbor is arming and training Shi'ite Muslim militants here.
more stories like this

The sharp change in tone, after meetings with Iranian officials in Tehran, reflects the difficult position in which Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki of Iraq finds himself as he attempts to juggle relations with two powerful allies who are intense rivals.

"We have no choice but to have good relations with the neighboring countries," said Maliki's spokesman, Ali Dabbagh. "We do not want to be pushed into a conflict with a country like Iran."

Dabbagh's comments came after US officials had trumpeted the discovery of large quantities of Iranian weapons, some of them manufactured in 2008. The purported finds have not been shown to the media. But if true, they would suggest that Iran had not kept a promise to Maliki to help cut the supply of arms, funding, and training to Iraqi militants.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/mid...iran_conflict/

Tuatara · #13 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 11:05 AM

More news

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Iraq Investigates Weapons Allegations Against Iran
The Iraqi government plans to create a special committee to look into allegations that Iran is funneling arms to Shiite militia groups. The announcement came after five Iraqi parliament members traveled to Tehran last week to meet top Iranian leaders. U.S. military officials say there is evidence of Iranian-supplied munitions, but it's uncertain whether there is complicity by the Iranian government...

I guess we will wait and see.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=90180121

Drew4310 · #14 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008, 08:24 PM

I think at this point you have to be pretty foolish if you think Iran isn’t trying to influence what happens in Iraq by supporting our enemies.

Tuatara · #15 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew4310

I think at this point you have to be pretty foolish if you think Iran isn’t trying to influence what happens in Iraq by supporting our enemies.

But who are your enemies in Iraq? Iran was instrumental in helping the latest truce in Sadr City.
Iran involved in Sadr City truce, says Iraqi MP

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Iran played a prominent role in a deal struck by Iraqi Shi'ite factions to end seven weeks of fighting in the Baghdad stronghold of cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, a senior Shi'ite Iraqi legislator said on Monday.

Ali al-Adeeb, a member of the ruling Shi'ite alliance who is close to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, said an Iraqi delegation that went to Tehran almost two weeks ago asked for Iranian help because of Tehran's influence over Sadr's movement.

http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=164780

Who's being foolish?

justabubba · #16 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew4310

I think at this point you have to be pretty foolish if you think Iran isn’t trying to influence what happens in Iraq by supporting our enemies.

ok, i hear you and can't find a strong basis to disagree ... but i am also unable to make this add up ... possibly you can fill in the blanks

iran and iraq were at war with each other (twice) while saddam was the head of iraq. the USA took out iran's nemesis, saddam, and his sunni hierarchy, leaving the iraqi government - after elections - to be dominated by the shiite majority, which is like what exists in iran. so, i don't understand what is so unreasonable about a shiite dominated country being more than willing to assist another emerging shiite dominated government ... especially when that emerging government is next door

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