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Old 05-02-2008, 03:59 AM
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Please read my first few posts on this topic.

I am not explaining why I agree or disagree with it. I am telling you what would happen.
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Funny yes but innacurate as when a gun is shot in a plane the pressure rises rapidly and can force the weaker parts of the plane to break like windows or rivets. So to shoot a suicidal terrorist may stop them from hitting their target but you would probably end up crashing anyway.
Thats not true, I saw this tested on Myth Busters and a bullet hole will not cause a plane to crash.
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Terrorists are not police officers. Never make that mistake again!
Citizens arrest is possible in most places.
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Citizens arrest is possible in most places.
Terrorists are not citizens! Never EVER make that mistake again!
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Terrorists are not citizens! Never EVER make that mistake again!
First, terrorists can be citizens. Timothy McVeigh was a citizen. The 9/11 terrorists had US Visas and could probably have been granted citizenship if they applied, assuming they met or would meet the residency requirements.

Secondly, not all jurisdictions require one to be a citizen to make an arrest.
See paragraph 3. http://www.criminalattorney.com/page...ens_arrest.htm

So, in some instances, Islamic jihadists may be obligated to make an arrest in when Americans are breaking US law.
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First, terrorists can be citizens. Timothy McVeigh was a citizen. The 9/11 terrorists had US Visas and could probably have been granted citizenship if they applied, assuming they met or would meet the residency requirements.

Secondly, not all jurisdictions require one to be a citizen to make an arrest.
See paragraph 3. http://www.criminalattorney.com/page...ens_arrest.htm

So, in some instances, Islamic jihadists may be obligated to make an arrest in when Americans are breaking US law.
I was being mostly facetious.
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No! You are totally uneducated on this subject.
Why because mythbusters is never wrong I am a scientist I view things like this with enough knowledge to defend my view.

From what I hear mythbusters only pressurized the plane and didn't depressurize the surrounding leading to skewed results. A gun might not cause irreparable damage but it could lead to a decrease in strucural integrity and it also would create somewhat of a vacuum as air moves from high to low pressure.
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Why because mythbusters is never wrong I am a scientist I view things like this with enough knowledge to defend my view.

From what I hear mythbusters only pressurized the plane and didn't depressurize the surrounding leading to skewed results. A gun might not cause irreparable damage but it could lead to a decrease in strucural integrity and it also would create somewhat of a vacuum as air moves from high to low pressure.
I am sorry. I do not watch TV.

You are uneducated to the fact that the structural integrity of the bird can not be comprised because of a small change in pressure like that. Yes it is a small change in pressure.

Do you know what the difference in pressures are between the outside and inside of a plane at altitude?
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Why because mythbusters is never wrong I am a scientist I view things like this with enough knowledge to defend my view.

From what I hear mythbusters only pressurized the plane and didn't depressurize the surrounding leading to skewed results. A gun might not cause irreparable damage but it could lead to a decrease in strucural integrity and it also would create somewhat of a vacuum as air moves from high to low pressure.
Please explain to me how they are required to pressurize the outside if the ratio is the same? They did not pressurize the interior to normal pressures. They calculated how much of a difference there would be, and pressurized the interior accordingly. Therefor they did not need to do anything to the external pressure.

Now, if you are going to come back at me and say that they did not take into account the air traveling over the hull at 400+ mph, then you need to watch the revisit where they did, and got the same exact results.

The pressure difference interior to exterior is only between 52–55 kPa (7.5 to 8 psi). At most you are looking at popped eardrums and some sinus problems. Movies often do not represent real life.

If the bird looses cabin pressure then the hull will actually have more integrity because there are no internal exterior forces pushing/pulling on the hull.

The smaller the hole, the smaller the problems, as it takes longer for the bird to decompress. A larger hole may cause lung damage as it may cause the bird to decompress faster than the lungs can. That is about it.

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Contrary to Hollywood myth, as seen in the James Bond film, Goldfinger, people just a few feet from the hole are more at risk from hypoxia than from being forced out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_pressurization

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Citizens arrest is possible in most places.
You're restricting my right to bear arms. Citizens arrest!!!
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