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Old 04-30-2008, 06:12 AM
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Well I really like it when my woman is at home with me.

But I think the feminization of the United States is part of the problem we have today. Feelings are taught to be more important than right and wrong. Feelings and self-worth and creativity are treasured to the point that gray is the norm instead of definitive absolutes of right and wrong.

Now before you call me a sexist, I don't think women should be subservient, I consider my wife my equal. I work with and have worked for women and find them every bit as competent as my male counter-parts.
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Feelings are taught to be more important than right and wrong.
How are "right" and "wrong" not based in feeling?
Questioning "right" and "wrong" is evidence of thinking.
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I work with and have worked for women and find them every bit as competent as my male counter-parts.
Which is why women should serve in all roles in the military; including combat.

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Do I prefer women on streetcorners?

I suppose that depends upon whether or not I think women should be obscene and not heard.
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I think that it is common for people to refer to women as being more emotional and feeling than men. I don't think this is the case. I think research indicates that women are more verbo-linguistic than men, and thus, are more able to articulate their feelings, but I don't think that men are any less emotional than we are.

I would suggest the opposite. I think that women have adopted many historically masculine traits, some good and some bad. If you look at women in positions of authority, they are no better, and no worse, than men in those roles. Women sexually harass their co-workers, and female crime stats indicate a rising trend of violence.

Perhaps this means we are becoming more alike. I don't really know. I think that any period of flux is difficult. And, I have to say that I do sympathize with men right now as I think that they are subjected to a variety of mixed messages: women should be their equals on the job, and don't even think about opening that door! But, buddy, you better ante up and pay for all the dates, because we're still dating in the 50s, even though you have to spend your workday in '08.

In some ways, this period of turmoil is challenging for everyone. On the other hand, as someone who was one of the first women in an overwhelmingly male-dominated field, I do really like seeing that women today have more choices and opportunities than ever before to choose the course of their lives, and I see men doing the same, including some who choose to be stay-at-home dads.
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I think that it is common for people to refer to women as being more emotional and feeling than men. I don't think this is the case. I think research indicates that women are more verbo-linguistic than men, and thus, are more able to articulate their feelings, but I don't think that men are any less emotional than we are.

I would suggest the opposite. I think that women have adopted many historically masculine traits, some good and some bad. If you look at women in positions of authority, they are no better, and no worse, than men in those roles. Women sexually harass their co-workers, and female crime stats indicate a rising trend of violence.

Perhaps this means we are becoming more alike. I don't really know. I think that any period of flux is difficult. And, I have to say that I do sympathize with men right now as I think that they are subjected to a variety of mixed messages: women should be their equals on the job, and don't even think about opening that door! But, buddy, you better ante up and pay for all the dates, because we're still dating in the 50s, even though you have to spend your workday in '08.

In some ways, this period of turmoil is challenging for everyone. On the other hand, as someone who was one of the first women in an overwhelmingly male-dominated field, I do really like seeing that women today have more choices and opportunities than ever before to choose the course of their lives, and I see men doing the same, including some who choose to be stay-at-home dads.
What an analytical and well-reasoned response.

I just can't wait until some of the more emotional young fellows here fly off the handle by way of response.


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You know what's really funny about that? I am a huge fan of Meyers/Briggs personality research. My boyfriend is incredibly rational and analytical, and even though I am an ENFP, we get along well because I am also pretty rational (and I know when I'm being irrational).

Also, our personality types are very sensitive to life's gray areas. The people who REALLY drive me crazy are the black/white thinkers.
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You know what's really funny about that? I am a huge fan of Meyers/Briggs personality research. My boyfriend is incredibly rational and analytical, and even though I am an ENFP, we get along well because I am also pretty rational (and I know when I'm being irrational).

Also, our personality types are very sensitive to life's gray areas. The people who REALLY drive me crazy are the black/white thinkers.
It's been a while for me, but I'm an intj. One of the characteristics for mine is that I want people to make sense. It is those black/white types who usually don't because they really aren't thinking, but merely repeating.
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You know what's really funny about that? I am a huge fan of Meyers/Briggs personality research. My boyfriend is incredibly rational and analytical, and even though I am an ENFP, we get along well because I am also pretty rational (and I know when I'm being irrational)..
I'm an ENFP myself and my wife is an INTJ. I think it helps for one person to be a little less rational and one person to be more rational. Granted, I'm borderline between T and F... but my wife learned real quick that marrying another engineer would be a bad idea.
Likewise I found that someone less rational than me would drive me nuts!

The major biological difference between a man's and woman's brain... when concerning these kinds of things... is that women have a far more efficient connection between the hemispheres of the brain. They can combine right-brain and left-brain thinking on a subject, while men tend to struggle with that and usually be in one mode or the other.
Of course men are likely to have higher IQs (also more likely to have lower IQs) due to the quick mutation of the Y... but I think this biological difference gives women an advantage in intellectual potential.

But overall most of it is about what you learn and how you learn. Biology is not quite as deterministic as people make it out to be, at least not between humans (at least where intellect is concerned... I suppose a lot about health is pretty much biologically determined).
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