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The captives are not being paraded in orange jump suits, manacled or shackled.
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On camera but what about off camera?
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What the captives are saying is an irrelevancy
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But what they say in the letters is not consistent with British language.
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The UK government By their actions is putting a spotlight on Iran for a bit of pre conflict tubthumping. Blair the liar is at his tricks again
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There is no defined border in the waterway.
Algiers agreement 1975:
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However, the treaty was not honoured by either side, resulting in the Iran-Iraq war that began in 1980. The main points of the dispute concerned the Shatt El Arab, a waterway that is Iraq's only outlet to the sea, as well disputed islands and territories. In part, the dispute arose because of the shifting course of the Shatt El Arab. Even after the war, the disputes have not been totally resolved.
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legally both sides are lying. At the end of the Shatt al Arab is a sand bank that starts on the Iranian bank and stretches across the Shatt al arab. The border starts from there but the sand bank shifts and so does the border.
Both sides are lying?
The 1975 agreement between Iran and Iraq to settle the border in that area has not been updated by the surveys that were to be carried out every decade.
!985 due to Iran/Iraq war, 1995 due to problems with the peace process after the Iran/Iraq war, 2005 due to US invasion of Iraq.
So the territorial waters are disputed by both side. Now saying that you know exactly where the boundary lies is total BS. Iran cannot claim that and neither can the UK.
When the agreed International survey is completed then we could debate
the whys and wherefores of outrageous actions. Until then no-one can say with any precision how far or on which side of the border anyone was.
How do i know? Because I was involved with surveying the straight for the British Military in the 80's.
19 topographical squadron, 42 survey engineer regiment.
The lie is that the captives were in Iraqi waters.
They were not they were in disputed waters.
What the captives say is an irrelevancy. The Iranians were always going to use them as diplomatic pawns. Whether they were coerced or tricked into saying anything is unimportant. They do not have and political knowledge or control in any events apart from their immediate surroundings.
All the footage should be used for is seeing that the captives are alive and unharmed. The words and letters should be ignored.
They are not being paraded as the Guantanamo captives, there is more political capital to be gained in Iranian eyes if the captives are treated humanely. Sowing the difference between Iran and the US treatment of combatants. The best way for Blair to have dealt with it would have been to shut up and let the diplomats get to work.
With Blair tubthumping he is only strengthening Iran's hand.