I could certainly live without ever murdering my baby.



No necessarily..... If a person murders a pregnant woman he can be charged with both the murder of the mother and the murder of her aborted unborn baby.

Not in my state.

I think it is by definition birth control.

Ive invented a new form of birth control, I place a pebble in one slipper and go limp.

There are many enjoyable sexual acts that do not require vaginal penetration,requests for information to Mrs B L Zeebub she will respond by plain envelope

Which reminds me of the joke about the Rear Admirals virgin daughter who married an ablebodied Seaman.

The night before the wedding the Rear Admiral had a chat with his daughter about sex, he ended with the statement that your future husband being a seaman may ask you to do it "the other way" he told her appart from it being a sin it hurt like hell! he would not explain further!

For 6 months the newly weds were at it like rabbits, the noise of there passion could be heard all over the ship!

One night after a very intense session she found herself bored with what had taken place, so looking for something different and not knowing what, she asked her husband in all innocence "lets do it the other way"

His reply was "What and risk having babies

But could you live without having sex?

Not over here. Your laws are a little different to ours. You have a law of Fetal Homocide, I believe, and this only comes into play when a woman is made to miscarry when she is harmed by another person. The law also comes into play if it is apparent the woman intended to keep her child. At least, I think this is how it works.

Over here, because the fetus is not legally a person, it has no rights. Now, I myself don't believe a fetus is a person until birth, but at the same time, I would be horrified if a woman were made to lose her baby, and charges were not laid. At most, the charge would be assault causing grevious bodily harm - note the fetus is not mentioned? It's almost as if it doesn't exist, and in the eyes of our law, it doesn't.

I would support fetal homocide laws, because if a woman intends to keep her child, no one has the right to take that choice from her. If fetal homocide laws were introduced in Australia, however, I would worry that the law regarding personhood would be changed, meaning the fetus is considered a person.

I don't think this is the case in the US, though...can anyone from the US confirm whether or not a fetus is considered a person? If not, how does such a law as Fetal Homocide come into play, seeing the fetus is not a human being and therefore cannot be 'murdered'?

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Consent has no bearing on the morality of abortion. Abortion is the murder of the innocent baby, not the killing of the rapist who did it to you. Emotional trauma is not justification.

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Thats the problem liberals won't accept responsibility for anything!

Like with a great many things, the U.S. is not consistent. It's a hallmark of our government. When it comes to abortion the fetus is not considered a person. However, if you kill a fetus in the commission of a crime it is considered a person. This is because we have federal laws and state laws. States are free to make killing a fetus in the commission of a crime against state law. But they cannot ban abortion because of Roe v. Wade.

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Sex is a desire, it is not a need.

That is my response to the abortionist supporter.

The argument that people need sex and that abortion should be around because of "mistakes"

By arguing that sex is a basic need, like air, food and water, you argue that we are essentially animals driven by our needs.

We are of course driven by our needs...we all need air, food and water...

Sex is a desire however, it is not necessary to sustain life.