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Old 05-09-2008, 07:11 AM
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Why should I ebelive anything they say, when it is greed that motivates them?
Why should you believe the pundits that make the allegations either?

I think you have to do a little thinking on what is more likely.
All politicians are going to be making some false promises and dubious claims. All pundits will make up whatever crap gets them noticed.

But barring any hard evidence, I usually assume... if it sounds like a conspiracy theory, it's most likely a bunch of crap.
Really I can come up with just as much evidence to claim that Obama is a reptilian alien taking America for another four years of Illuminati rule.

If Obama is elected president, that WILL be in the next David Icke book... and someone out there will believe it.
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:24 AM
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Why should you believe the pundits that make the allegations either?

I think you have to do a little thinking on what is more likely.
All politicians are going to be making some false promises and dubious claims. All pundits will make up whatever crap gets them noticed.

But barring any hard evidence, I usually assume... if it sounds like a conspiracy theory, it's most likely a bunch of crap.
Really I can come up with just as much evidence to claim that Obama is a reptilian alien taking America for another four years of Illuminati rule.

If Obama is elected president, that WILL be in the next David Icke book... and someone out there will believe it.
Well maybe, but there is considerable evidence that Obama harbors racist leanings toward whites. there is no such supporting evidence of his reptillian affilaition!
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:29 AM
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Well maybe, but there is considerable evidence that Obama harbors racist leanings toward whites. there is no such supporting evidence of his reptillian affilaition!
There's no evidence whatsoever that he is racist toward whites. None.
Guilt by association is precisely the way Icke would prove he's a reptile (actually a human with alien blood possessed by a reptillian alien living in the fourth dimension). First he'd show how he has the same bloodline as all the others (he's a distant relative of Dick Cheney if you look at a large enough view of his family tree... and that's no joke!). Then he's give all his weird speculative evidence on how this bloodline has ruled the earth since day one and is possessed by aliens.
Guilt by association.

Either way, you have some little factoid (a very exaggerated one) and you speculate on all the rest, oftne bypassing Acham's Razor by several miles... The end result is something you really made up yourself.

The primary difference is that in this case, you have been spoonfed the half-assed speculation by pundits who feed off the attention.
Icke... well... his opinions are... his own.
I recommend reading his books for sheer entertainment value!
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There's no evidence whatsoever that he is racist toward whites. None.
Guilt by association is precisely the way Icke would prove he's a reptile (actually a human with alien blood possessed by a reptillian alien living in the fourth dimension). First he'd show how he has the same bloodline as all the others (he's a distant relative of Dick Cheney if you look at a large enough view of his family tree... and that's no joke!). Then he's give all his weird speculative evidence on how this bloodline has ruled the earth since day one and is possessed by aliens.
Guilt by association.

Either way, you have some little factoid (a very exaggerated one) and you speculate on all the rest, oftne bypassing Acham's Razor by several miles... The end result is something you really made up yourself.

The primary difference is that in this case, you have been spoonfed the half-assed speculation by pundits who feed off the attention.
Icke... well... his opinions are... his own.
I recommend reading his books for sheer entertainment value!
You beleive what you want to believe. I'll do the same! His wife is a racist. His mentor is a racist. his pastor is a racist.

'nuff said!
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You beleive what you want to believe. I'll do the same! His wife is a racist. His mentor is a racist. his pastor is a racist.

'nuff said!
You can believe whatever you want. Even if I cared I could not change that.
It doesn't change the fact that either your definition of racism is watered down or you have not looked closely at the facts.
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Thanks fot that insightful reply. I think it is fairly obvious I will not, I just want some others who may be disillusioned to WAKE UP from the drunken stuper that is Obama support!!!
Hey, I already woke up from the drunken stupor that is Obama support and from the drunken stupor that is Clinton support and from the drunken stupor that is McCain support ..

and years earlier from the sheer lunacy that is Bush support.

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You can believe whatever you want. Even if I cared I could not change that.
It doesn't change the fact that either your definition of racism is watered down or you have not looked closely at the facts.
Do you have any so called facts you would like me to consider? Or are you just ranting blindly, much like Obama's empty rhetoric?
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I don't like Obama for his political platform.

But if you can find any hard evidence that proves him to unarguably be a racist, I'd be very shocked. He may well be, but unless you can find something that he himself said, you don't really have much.
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He doesn't have anything on his wife either. Rev. Wright a little bit. But how that translates to Obama is still a mystery.
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He doesn't have anything on his wife either. Rev. Wright a little bit. But how that translates to Obama is still a mystery.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/htm...racism132.html

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