second reading of the human fertilisation and embrology bill. - Page 2

TrueAlbo2006 · #11 (**permalink**) 05-14-2008, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

Abortion is legal in the UK, and although we do have a few religious nutters, there is no interest within the public here to change that fact.

To all you prolifers from outside the UK who scream "Murder" that is not supported over here,so it has no relevance to the link I will try to post.

It is currently legal to abort up to 24 weeks.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...edicalresearch
It worked so if you read the link your comments should be about the facts in the article, not your beliefs!

Remember as a civilsed democracy, we will have a number of readings or debates over the prescribed time period of this bill in the house of commons, that will stimulate a full and frank discussion by our MP's, who represent the electorate, before a vote!

if a man murders a pregnant woman, will he be charged for double murder in the UK?

Abortion is a murder!

B L Zeebub · #12 (**permalink**) 05-14-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueAlbo2006

if a man murders a pregnant woman, will he be charged for double murder in the UK?

Abortion is a murder!

No, to your first question, and your statement is rubbish.

Okamifujutsu · #13 (**permalink**) 05-14-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueAlbo2006

if a man murders a pregnant woman, will he be charged for double murder in the UK?

Abortion is a murder!

How many states have Laci Peterson laws? I know mine doesn't.

Chesby05 · #14 (**permalink**) 05-14-2008, 04:20 PM

In Australia (I think) you can be charged for double homicide if you murder a pregnant woman, depending on how far along in her pregnancy she is. I'll have to check on that but I think that's the case these days, although it hasn't always been.

B L Zeebub · #15 (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 09:27 PM

The Bill to reduce the time limit from 24wks to 20wks was defeated

lunecat · #16 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 02:58 AM

Abortion figures in the UK are dramatically up in recent years more than 1,000,000 in the last 5 years

88% carried out within the first 13-weeks of pregnancy.

Some women multiple abortions.

I think it is very sad, when I imagine all those missing little Britons, that should be growing up in a reasonably wealthy Country one with a National Heath, Social Security and Education systems could support these little Britons. No trips to Blackpool or Alton Towers or Chester Zoo for them - no first kiss, no first job/criminal record* (*delete as appropriate)

I'd like to see the birth rate in the UK amongst native British people on the rise again, these abortion figures don't look good to me

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4720813.stm

Howard · #17 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

The Bill to reduce the time limit from 24wks to 20wks was defeated

So, in Britain's topsy-turvey world infanticide remains legal (at a 24 week limit you might just as well smash them on the head with a lead pipe as they exit the womb) while it is made easier for genetic material from two women in a lesbian relationship to be used in IVF treatment and for both to have the status of legal parents when one of them gives birth.

What a Parliament of Perverts!

lunecat · #18 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard

So, in Britain's topsy-turvey world infanticide remains legal (at a 24 week limit you might just as well smash them on the head with a lead pipe as they exit the womb) while it is made easier for genetic material from two women in a lesbian relationship to be used in IVF treatment and for both to have the status of legal parents when one of them gives birth.

What a Parliament of Perverts!

Hi, please let me quote something from Bubba's OP

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Remember as a civilsed democracy, we will have a number of readings or debates over the prescribed time period of this bill in the house of commons, that will stimulate a full and frank discussion by our MP's, who represent the electorate, before a vote!
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Although I have no doubt that there are some "Perverts" as you put it in our house of Parliment - but it was debated acording to our Democratic system. It was a free vote and no party whips were involved.

Howard · #19 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lunecat

Hi, please let me quote something from Bubba's OP

Although I have no doubt that there are some "Perverts" as you put it in our house of Parliment - but it was debated acording to our Democratic system. It was a free vote and no party whips were involved.

Whips eh? Kinky! See, I told you Parliament was full of perverts.

lunecat · #20 (**permalink**) 05-21-2008, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard

Whips eh? Kinky! See, I told you Parliament was full of perverts.

Yes its a very kinky place

http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/principal/whips.cfm

A 3 line whip sounds well kinky

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Three-line whips

Defying a three-line whip is very serious, and has occasionally resulted in the whip being withdrawn from an MP or Lord. This means that the Member is effectively expelled from their party (but keeps their seat) and must sit as an independent until the whip is restored.

I suspect the British Public School education system is to blame

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