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Old 04-07-2007, 11:26 AM
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I suggest you go back and read Genesis. Remember the tree of knowledge? Think about that especially how it reflects today...The tree of knowledge.
I remember Genesis 3:16 all too well. The early chapters of Genesis are mythical and poor even as an allegory. If ignorance is a vice, I shall do satan's bidding, and at any rate I will not take as part of God's Word something that suggests that God is punishing women through childbirth.
emnity does not necessarily mean punishment through child birth...
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. (Genesis 3:16)

I am a man, incidentally, but I find the notion of "ruling over" a woman as offensive as any woman possibly could. Moreover, anyone who tells me that what my mother went through giving birth to me was divine vengeance is not of the same religion I practice. If that makes me "un-Christian", so be it. It made a physical and psychological wreck of my mother and has messed me up pretty darn badly as well (I heard about it later). While I don't think that satan is a literal fallen angel, I could live with the idea that an evil fallen angel was responsible for what happened just about 22 years ago now, but I won't attribute it to a "benevolent" God as Genesis does.
you are leaving out the entire passage for the sake of your arguement.

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Gen 3:17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying,Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

who was verse 15 directed towards?
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