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Old 04-20-2007, 08:22 AM
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If there's any legislation that might result from this crime, it might be this:

The problem with all forms of gun control in country's with relatively benevolent legal systems is that all you can do about the guns is control the legality of their ownership and operation. You cannot actually control the usage of weaponry because if somebody wants something, almost anything, they can and usually will find a way to do it. Consider abortion: (This is a new analogy I have constructed, so if it is completely unreasonable or irrelevant, don't hesitate to point it out.)

Whenever somebody tries to make abortions illegal, the pro-choicers and the feminists and a bunch of other special interest (grass-roots?) organizations, as well as ordinary people, decry the idea. They claim that if abortion is criminalized, all that means is that reputable, sanitary hospitals cannot perform the operation. They say that what will end up happening is that women (and girls, angeringly) will either try to perform it themselves, via makeshift devices such as clothes hangers, or they will end up going to some back-alley quack without any real expertise. A plethora of women will end up getting infections, sustaining horrible injuries, or even die due to the inadequate conditions and procedures that they would have to endure and undergo. All those women could have been saved if they just had the ability to go to a proper hospital so that they would have the procedure done safely and cleanly.

Now, enter the gun. The same people who seem to recognize the frailty of laws and occasional pointlessness of legality somehow do an about-face. They fail to realize that, just like with abortion, if someone wants a gun, they will get it in some way or another. They will find a way, and usually there isn't much of a web you have to go through to get one through the underground. If you criminalize gun ownership, people who want guns will either get it themselves by stealing or some other illegal seizure of property, or they will get it from some non-upstanding source for which there is not necessarily a guarantee of product-safety or reliability. In fact, just like abortion-desirers, the gun-desirers who have certain expertise can even make their own tool, a tool which would obviously lack a guarantee of safety and might have specifications that a regular gun would only dream of.

That is a big reason that I am strongly against gun control. Similar to anti-abortion legislation, even the well meaning gun control laws only end up doing a disservice or worse to the regular, average, normal, just wants a gun for whatever reason, citizen.
While I understand this analogy (can be applied to drugs too), the issue here is whether or not to allow the legal purchase of guns to those determined to be mentally unstable, not regular average people. I don't see the harm of being on the safe side on this issue or that any disservice of consequence will be done to "normal" people.

If you criminalize abortion, you would certainly have illegal practices and back-alley procedures but you'd also see a substantial overall drop in abortions. You could say the same about adultery if you instituted the death penalty for such a sin so the end doesn't justify the means in these cases in my view. Similarly, in Cho's case, not allowing him to legally purchase guns would reduce the chances that he would obtain these weapons although certainly not prevent him entirely. The means would be justified.
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