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Old 05-21-2008, 06:43 PM
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You don't understand, Conservatives don't follow 'Jesus', they follow 'Supply-side Jesus'...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8xU-gKK17A
Clever how they make fun of both supply side economics and Christians at the same time. It was brilliant satire! and like most satire, it told lies to make for some comedy. Not only did Jesus not say or advocate those ideas, but supply side economics is actually good. Satire has such comforting poetic justice.
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I am talking about todays times actually and our current crop of liberal candidates and congressmen and women like Pelosi.
Bill Clinton went into Kosovo and Rawanda, and you conservatives screamed.

See my signature of Bush's thoughts on military intervention.

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Why are conservatives terrorists themselves?
Note that I don't actually expect a response to the question, I'm merely highlighting the fallacy in this thread's topic.


Oh, but I can't help but respond, after all I don't want to disappoint you.
Now this will be way beyond your liberal understanding, but here goes.

Lets say a guy breaks into my home and he has a weapon with him, and threatens my whole
family and starts to demand that he molest my daughter, do I Negotiate with him? no I use
the same tactics be SAID he would use on us, ONLY I beat him to it. I pull out my hand gun
from my pillow and I blow his Azz away, Now the problem is fixed. Nip it in the putt.

It's a very effective method.

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See? This is how it's done. Hit the American people with hypotheticals based solely on fear and the $ grubbing, selfish, power hungry, greedy neocon repubs will get their way every time. And who pays with their lives to see the 'elite' achieve their goals? Predominately, the without working men ( and now women ) of this Great nation. Well, in my lifetime anyway (1962- ).

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but you couldn't throw these cowards in war if they were water in a bucket.


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Gotta give it to brutha. Funny as all he!!, , , and SHAMEFUL.


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Okay, this whole thread is stupid.

There are so many bad/evil regimes out there it's pathetic. Conservatives don't give a $%*& about overthrowing evil regimes. They pick and choose who to point a finger at and it's all tied into their money.

WE DID NOT INVADE IRAQ TO BRING DEMOCRACY TO THE MIDDLE EAST. WE WANT THEIR OIL. (And they just signed a 3 billion dollar oil deal with China; way to go George!)

I had to wipe spit off my TV when Bush started all the "free the Iraqi people from the tyranny" garbage. If he is so interested in Democracy for the middle east, why not lean on our 2 allies in the region, Kuwait and the UAR, who have NEVER IN HISTORY GIVEN THEIR PEOPLE ANY KIND OF SAY IN THEIR GOVERNMENT! Not once.

Real political Liberals are not against war, they are against going to war FOR PROFIT AND GLORY! Or should be!

Did any of you Conservative war supporters lose family in Vietnam? Well? When your government takes you to war for profit or glory, they are no longer serving the interests of the people. Period.

Communist Russia did not fail due to military action. Change can be accomplished in ways other than picking up a gun.

And the whole "someone breaks into your house" example is just stupid. Do you really think if Russia invaded New Jersey, "breaking into our house", that Obama would negotiate?

Liberals are not talking about negotiating with anyone who has directly attacked us, and for that matter, neither are Conservatives. Take Iran. The point is to reel in their nuclear ambitions. You want to bomb them for that?

And let's face it. The US has invaded and occupied countries on 2 of Iran's borders. If Iran invaded and occupied Canada and Mexico, we'd be building Nukes by the thousands!!!

Google the 9/11 data and see where these idiots came from. Saudi's, nearly all. Cram the war profitteering rhetoric. Conservatives don't care about anything but padding and protecting their bank accounts.

Excuse my anger, but your "veiws" make me want to throw up...
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I'm not afraid of war I am disgusted by it.
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You do realize that ww1 and ww2 were won by Democrats right?

you do realize that Republicans have only won one major conflict in history and it involved americans killing americans right?

now stop being a pathetic GOP Whiner who can't stand the liberal bias of the historical facts, oh I'm sorry , you still believe in creationism and the tooth fairy, don't worry your silly little head about it McCain can't lose.
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The opposition to war is neither a conservative or liberal position. It is a position held by those that recognize that war is the ultimate form of tyranny and terrorism and they are opposed to tyranny and terrorism.

As a member of Vietnam Veterans Against War I have found the political leanings of members to be both conservative and liberal but what we share is the common belief that the US should not be imposing tyranny and terrorism upon other nations of the world. We are opposed to both neo-cons and neo-libs that support wars against nations as a means for imposing American imperialism around the world.
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The last period of peace for the length of a president's time in office was Ford's presidency. He is, of course, a Republican. Before that it was Eisenhower, also a Republican. Before that, Hoover, another Republican. Then Coolidge, Republican. Harding, Republican. Taft, Republican. And finally, Cleveland, Democrat (1893-1897). Last time there was no war during a Democrat's presidency was 111 years ago.

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WWI - Wilson
WWII - FDR
Korea - Truman
Vietnam - Johnson

Wanna re-think that statement again?
They were not liberal pacifist appeasers. They were just liberal. Big difference.

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You do realize that ww1 and ww2 were won by Democrats right?

you do realize that Republicans have only won one major conflict in history and it involved americans killing americans right?

now stop being a pathetic GOP Whiner who can't stand the liberal bias of the historical facts, oh I'm sorry , you still believe in creationism and the tooth fairy, don't worry your silly little head about it McCain can't lose.
That's not true
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Why is that? Why do they take up for these rogue nations? Why is it they don't have the backbone to take charge and stand up to evil regimes that want America destroyed? Why are they so sensative?
How can you even ask that question, in light of our war with Iraq?
What about the evil American regime that wants to destroy other nations?
How can we be such hypocrites...answer that question, before proceeding to any other.
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The opposition to war is neither a conservative or liberal position. It is a position held by those that recognize that war is the ultimate form of tyranny and terrorism and they are opposed to tyranny and terrorism.

As a member of Vietnam Veterans Against War I have found the political leanings of members to be both conservative and liberal but what we share is the common belief that the US should not be imposing tyranny and terrorism upon other nations of the world. We are opposed to both neo-cons and neo-libs that support wars against nations as a means for imposing American imperialism around the world.
Ignoring the tyranny and terrorism that other states impose upon their own citizens is complicity. It is as if we are oppressing those people ourselves. To ignore their plight is the ultimate act of hypocrisy. Often there is nothing short of war that will drive out those oppressive forces. The goal for the future is to make that period of war as short as possible. A short period of war which leads to better conditions is preferable to continued suffering for generations. This is a founding principle of the United States. The Colonists were not content to live under the oppression of the Crown any longer and knew that only war would solve it.
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