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Old 05-04-2007, 06:34 AM
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And why? Because the system encourages them to do so by lowering their tax burden and offering them lots and lots of »social« help.
They would without this. The programs are a reaction to reality. They do not create it.

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I doubt that. The more developed a nation becomes, the more demanding the jobs it offers become. Why are people »poor«? Because they are not intelligent enough to get a job that pays good - but requires a good qualification. The more developed a nation becomes, the less jobs for »poor« (i. e. dummies) it will offer.
What jobs are available have a lot to do with where and how you grow up... but even so... there are labor jobs. There will be labor jobs. They are necessary. So shouldn't the people who do them have some place in our society? Are you for the Hindu caste system, particularly the concept of untouchables? India doesn't have much use for it anymore. Maybe they'll sell it to you.
And if labor jobs are eliminated... what happens next? The "better" jobs become devalued. The people with them become the new poor. They either get paid less... or prices go up.
We still need poor people.

It's the able-bodied folks who don't work at all you've got a beef with. Why take it out on working folks and disabled and families that believe in raising kids themselves? And frankly I'd argue that the current welfare state victimizes the able-bodied who don't work by making them dependent rather than pushing them to work.
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