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Originally Posted by notasheeple";p="
anyway back to the topic, you wrote
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I actually read an article the other day about how while the gap between haves and have nots is increasing, it's because more people are becoming rich, and not the other way around.
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That's an interesting and possible point, I wonder if one can actually find real numbers on this. Its probably worth looking into. The problem with this is that the numbers are always so fuzzy, hard to find, or usually coerced bya closed minded political opinion. |
I looked but I couldn't find the article anywhere. It was in our local paper last week but it wasn't on the online site and I couldn't find it on google. But it basically said that the gap between the haves and have nots is increasing but because more people are becoming haves than have nots, I don't know if I agree with this, because there are so many people in the country living on or below the poverty line.
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Bad numbers such as I earlier mentioned about the ones used to determine the poverty level in America, only taking in to account the cost of groceries and not transportation or housing. If you try to get numbers on how many actual families are homeless in this country it gets even fuzzier.
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I have talked about helping the homeless, but for one am just as concerned with families who do have homes and work 2 and 3 jobs to just scrape by. That seems ridiculous to me that anybody in this country would have to do that and not get help. I went to school with kids whose parents many times had to choose between electricity and food. Lots of my friends had to drop out and get jobs because the family couldn't make it work. So for anybody to say that people don't need welfare, anybody can become rich if they just work hard is just bs. This is where I usually get labeled a socialist, but I have nothing against socialists so it's ok.
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Never the less, I would like to know if in fact alot of people are getting richer and no ones getting poorer, and thats what causing this gap or not, but wouldn't that mean that no extra people would be falling behind into poverty? I rather believe that both are happening, Their are becoming more wealthy people in this country, while at the same time there are also more families falling into poverty conditions, Anyway it would be interesting to see real true actual numbers on where we as a nation are headed. I may be wrong.
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I don't think it's that people are getting richer and nobody's getting poorer, I think it's that more people are moving up than there are moving down. I think your assessment is correct and I too would be interested to see the real numbers.
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. . . but whenever I talk about this I get labeled a socialist.
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Funny, but I get called alot of strange things too. No matter what I say
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I agree that we do need to increase the minimum wage because 5.15 is ridiculous and it is not a living wage. CEO's do not deserve what they are makingThe make billions and get hundred million dollar bonuses. It's ridiculous and it's unnecessary. Look at how much the CEO of Wal Mart is making, yet he pays his employees minimum wage. He may say "Well if I paid them more the prices would go up." No, if you stopped taking $500,000,000 bonuses on top of your billion dollar salary, you wouldn't have to worry about it.
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If you listen to Lee Iaccoca, you will find he agrees with you too. And this was a man who [u]was[/u] a major CEO, and who turned a failing major corporation completely around. So you would think he would know about such things.
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Yes, he is a very smart man.