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Originally Posted by ashleykennedy";p="
Is Israel looking for peace? I know Israel would like peace but only on its terms, which is not what is on offer and never will be. Israel just can't seem to see that.
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It's fascinating to me that you seem to feel that there is a peace being offered by the Palestinians. That's laughable !! Unlike you, at least Hamas is open and honest about it's agenda, and it's not just their agenda. You absolutely, despite all proof, refuse to admit that Islam will never allow Israel to exist. So Israel makes peace with more liberal Muslem countries, or ones which value their quality of life and realiy over holy war declared in a book written by a nomdic warlord almost a millenia and a half ago. We do know that what we are offering will not be accepted, but neither would anything else we propose. And if you think giving back Jerusalem, the Golan and allowing all refugees (who knows how many there really are and who was really a refugee) back will bring peace, I'd like to know what you're smoking and where I can get some. The issue, the real underlying issue, is ISLAM !! It's never going away by appeasement !! I thaught you where from England. You have so many issues with Muslems. How can you possibly point at us and say we should appease Islem. Look how well it's working for you.
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Originally Posted by ashleykennedy";p="
Israel have never sought a compromise only the peace of a conqueror. Which always ends badly.
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We have given back land when the peace was actually meant. Sadat was genuine as was Jordan's King Hussein. We have peace with both nations (I know, Egypt hates us ... I blame that on Islam). The Palestinians have never never never wanted peace. They have never elected anyone promissing peace, only death to israel and return of refugees. So spare me the BS about compromise, Israel has done that plenty. Maybe you haven't noticed Israel's little social experiment with Gaza. Return all the land in question and see if good will is reciprocated. If you think it has, than we really have nothing more to speak about. It's now a Hammas stronghold and is used as a launching base against Israel. It's in fact a decleration of war as Hamas launches many of the rockets and cross border attacks, and it's the elected representative of the Palestinian people. And of cours Hamas is an orthodox Muslem organization so it will not allow Israel to have an inch of land, and has said so publicly. You seem to ignore that my neighbor openly declars it's desire to eliminate me by any means.
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Originally Posted by ashleykennedy";p="
Israel has set up an endless war and then bleats about it. If the Palestinians don't have security then Israel will not have security.
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Yes we bleat about the fact that regardless of our desires, Islam will not allow Israel to exist. You ignore this factor completely. It is the #1 factor in all this. Even if Israel did everything asked of us, it would not be enough. So you want me to apease people who openly call for my destruction ? Do I have "idiot" tattooed on my forehead ?
As for "Palesinian security", who o you thing a Palestinian has more of a chance of getting killed by, and Israeli, or a Palestinian ? They are killing civilians left and right, not to mention using civilians as sheilds when shooting rockets. So seriously, spare me the "Israel has braught this on itself" crap. When have the Muslem nations bent an inch to meet Israel with regards to peace ? Never !!