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And Israel is the non-Muslim country that closes Muslim schools, which is a bit more direct than an intellectual boycott.
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[quote="Janglo";p="388861"]That's funny. My Arab friends here go to school. Some even to Israeli Universities on scholarships. But that's not really the issue being discussed. So why is England the only non-Muslim country calling for an academic boycott of Israel. You are incapable of
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discerning between religions and refuse to acknowledge that England is certainly Anti-Israel (and yes, so is the BBC) and has had a horrible record with Jews in General.
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Gaza and West Bank Schools colleges and Universities? You brought the issue up. Because of Israel closing Palestinian schools. Absolutely incapable of seeing any difference between and religions, thank you. Britain in general is not anti Israel, it is however anti Human rights abuse.
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Me I say the 47 Borders.
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Somehow I knew you would. Not that there where any. The UN did not designate any officially before Israel was attacked.
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I just think it is a good place to start negotiations from. And the UN did designate Arab and Jewish areas based on population densities, before Israel attacked. Israel can only say that Israel was invaded (the Western Galilee Arab partition area) if Israel does not accept the Partition plan; which Israelophiles always say that Israel did accept the partition plan. Israel at the declaration of independence did not incorporate the Western Galilee or the strip around the West Bank.
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West Midlands Police has made an official complaint over "misleading" footage in a documentary about extremism in UK mosques.
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So channel 4 in the UK is **POINTLESS PROFANITY REMOVED PER TERMS OF USE - POSTING PROFANITY MAY GET YOU BANNED**. And ? In my neighborhood the kids in many Palestinian schools will gladly tell the horendous things they are taught to believe quite proudly. Besides which, channel 4 apparently went to mainstream mosques as stated in article. They really are dumber than a box of rocks.
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Israel schools for Jews also do the same, only with more subtlety.
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loyalist = pro UK. Republican = pro-republic of Ireland
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Yes. Ignore the part about Muslims attempting to blow the tube up twice, once successfully. Not to mention the rest of the attempted crazines like the engulfed truck in the airport trick.
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I do not ignore anything, I just don't dwell on one group to the exclusion of others. Why did the authorities take all the bins from public transport stations; because of the IRA bombing campaign not because of Muslims.
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I just do not see Islam as the only source of tensions in the world. Nor the biggest.
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OK. All I said originally is that it's a huge factor in why there is not going to be peace between Israel and the Palestinians any time soon. Whereas Jordan and Egypt vehemently put down the orthodox Muslim militancy that would erupt into attacks on Israel, no Palestinian leader yet has made any indication that they'd be as vigilant. Therefore, Islam is a HUGE issue in my neighborhood. The fact that you don't acknowledge that Hamas swears that it will destroy Israel in the name of Allah regardless of Israel's concessions, doesn't mean that that is not exactly what they have said and intend to do.
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The grass roots movement does have a way of getting irate at times. Normally when Israel has a bit of cross border activity, like invading the Lebanon.
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Looking in only one place, that's a a bit myopic.
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I'd say that it's rather you that's being narrow sighted.
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I personally haven't been threatened by Muslims, can't say the same about IRA and NI Loyalists.
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Actually the Mizrahim that were living in Hebron in 29 didn't get massacred. It was the ashkenzic new-comers that were causing the tensions that got attacked.
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LOL. You think that Ashkenasic Jews started this and that the Arab killers distinguished in a 3 day bloodbath between Jewish places of origin? This was started when a Muslim religious figure announced that the Jews where disrespectful to Islam. That's all it took. And the fact that you seem to condone the killing of Ashkenasic Jews would also explain why you might believe that blowing up public transportation in London is a perfectly acceptable form of political debate.
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6 Days according to the contemporaneous reports. And also the report says the bit about the reason for the attacks against the Ashkenasic Jews. You do need to see the reports.
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Male.
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All the better. You'll sell nicely as a slave.
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Ah, the CIA world fact book has taken the bit about slavery in Israel out. Israel were on the watch list for exploitation of temporary foreign workers.
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Not according to their DNA. They are like the Lebanese, a distinct people.
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Don't know how you could tell with all the Arabs the Brits imported into the area for their projects. But as distinct as they are, they are still Arab Muslims just like the 100+ million around them.
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Because I read the Hope Simpson report and I don't just rely upon Joan Peters interpretation of the Hope Simpson report. She [Joan Peters and for that matter Dershowitz correctly reported the 30,000 migrant workers entering Palestine annually but failed to report that they were temporary harvest workers who went home after the Harvest work was complete annually, and that was into the Western Galilee area not Gaza. From the DNA samples take the People of Gaza are pretty distinct from "Arabs";they [the Gazans] even have an earlier variant of the Cohen modal Haplogenotype called the Canaan gene.
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Aye there's the rub. You insist that Israel was attacked, it wasn't. King Abdullah stuck to the done deal and kept his forces under control (Arab League, he commanded Iraq, Jordan, lebanese, etc.) and in the Arab partition area.
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What year are you talking about now ? If it's 48, that's pretty funny.
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47 and 48; it is funny in the way the Israel puts it down to how the Arab league invaded Israel, which if you check the troop movements the Arab league didn't, just a couple of small forays by the Iraqi forces that got recalled by Abdullah. Also Abdullah denied passage of Saudi forces across Jordan to join his Arab League Army.
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"Go back to where you came from." When he realized that Levac was a Jew and born in this country, he shouted: "Traitor, going with the UN." Both the older man and younger guy living at the outpost were born abroad. The younger man, a British citizen, has not yet been given new-immigrant status.
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Fascinating story that is supposed to show what again ? Sometimes I must admit that I have a hard time following your train of thought. There are now what, 500 settlers in Hebron ? It used to be quite the Jewish community. I guess that's what happens when you massacre the inhabitants.
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I was comparing extremists in Israel and the occupied territories to Hamas. And Hebron at one time had no Jewish presence. And surprisingly Jerusalem also had no Jewish presence. Safed was the main Jewish city in Palestine and that wasn't founded until the 2nd Century AD.
Don't drop out Janglo, I do like to hear your views. I don't agree with them but I do like to know what you have to say.
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Look. We are eventually going to have to agree to disagree. We are both products of our environment. I was raised in a Zionist home, and you in England, which despite your repeated protest, is not known for being great with Jews and even worse with regards to Israel. So I am going to work with what I know about my adversary, and that is that regardless of appeasement, he wants it all and will not stop until I am no longer alive, or living here. I will not allow that to happen and I will not allow others to dictate what I must do for their own appeasement agendas. I am, to the disgust of all naysayers, doing quite well this way. Jerusalem will not be returned and the security fence will be finished.
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What, now you want Britain to appease Israel?