Obama is a lightweight compared to Hillary - a chimera, a lib media creation, there's no "there" there. Hillary, when it comes to being a canny politician, is the real deal. She is sucessfully using the "triangulation" method with which Bubba Clinton won two terms as president. Guiliani is hurting Guiliani, with his flip flops and crypto-liberalism - conservatives, not "the far right", are seeing him for what he is.