May be the Clinton Admin should have concentrated on Bin Laden, but they seemed to believe Saddam was involved by the information from JP5's post. He was their focal point.

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Barack Obama's Executive Flop

If Obama couldn't lead such a small organization as the Chicago Annenberg Challenge to success, how can any one bellieve he can lead this country to it?

Yes, checks and balances for governing.

When Chicken Little Bush screams to the world repeatedly that Iraq is rearming and targeting the US b/c they are in cahoots with Al Qaeda (right on the heels of the 9/11 attacks), that's a different story.

Was the congress negligent in not reading the NIE? Yes

Does that make Bush's push for war under false pretenses ok? No. Bush still must be held accountable for his (and his administration's) fraudulent push for war.

The CIA figured out NOTHING about him.

More intelligence breakdown.We never even had his real name.We had no cooperation from the Germans.CIA never even got to meet with him.Its never cut and dried.

Some in the CIA 'expressed' some doubt based on some german memos,some didnt based on other german intel and the mans ID was hardly debunked immediately.According to Tenet the Germans OKd the intel and in the end it was false....like so much else in this chapter.

If he was so easily dismissed as a fraud by Germany (who was the only possible source for the CIA) why hide him? Why send some messages stating doubt and others expressing faith in his claims?

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I don't care.

Curveball's German intelligence handlers saw him as "crazy ... out of control", his friends called him a "congenital liar", and US officials investigating his claims were surprised that he had a hangover and that he "might be an alcoholic".[13]

(Those are signs of a credible witness)


The Bush administration ignored evidence from the UN weapons inspectors that Curveball's claims were false. (What a shock! Ignoring countervailing evidence) Curveball had identified a particular Iraqi facility as a docking station for mobile labs. Satellite photography had showed a wall made such access impossible, but it was theorised that this wall was temporary. "When United Nations Monitoring Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) inspectors visited the site on February 9, 2003, they found that the wall was a permanent structure and could find nothing to corroborate Curveball's statements."[16] Instead, the inspectors found the warehouse to be used for seed processing.[17]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_%28informant%29

Curveball was a poor conman that the Bush Administration ran with b/c he told them what they wanted to hear.