Is the opinion that the British and American armies terrorist valid? Terrorism by definition is "the use of violent intimidation to achieve political aims". By this standard the answer is obviously yes. But when asked to apply these standards to our own countries we all shy away and blame things like the economy for this war was a bad idea, not "this was a terrorist war crime". So, do we care about fighting terrorism or just gaining power?

Right on!! Take a look at the thread linked below, Jffreak.
Noam Chomsky - hero or villain?
What you have proposed is one of Noam Chomsky’s main theses, namely that America is just as guilty of terrorism as any of the countries that it accuses of terrorism, and threatens to invade in the name of democracy.

You will see our co-posters from the right call Chomsky all sorts of names – mad; traitor; despicable; insane; etc. But know what Jffreak, in all the opportunity that they were given they couldn’t disprove his accusation, not one teeny-weeny bit.

What does that tell you?

Yeah I know it trashes the very foundations of their Chomsky tirades, but it also makes them look intellectually fraudulent; either that or pre-school debaters. They can pick which of the two since there aren’t exactly a whole heap of other logical options.

Let me try to explain how it works in the minds of the Neocon supporters. They know that many of the US actions in foreign lands are illegal according to local and/or international law. That is why Bush is copying some of his predecessors in trying to get Iraq to sign on the dotted line that no US citizen will be tried for crimes in Iraq. Ouch!!

They know about these illegalities, and they also know about the seeming hypocrisy of - “There are certain inviolate rules that the world simply HAS to obey, except for America”. The terrorism issue that you raised is one of these. The Geneva conventions are another. Detention without trial. These are just some of what Chomsky refers to as the Single Standards that the US believes it does not have to conform to.

Read this forum and you will see the blatant hypocrisy; the total disrespect for international laws that have been carefully crafted over many years; the two-faced attitude towards the protocols of the UN which the US was instrumental in drafting and which it has signed.

And why does this happen? “The US does not have to keep to international protocols, norms, rules, standards or law if it is not in our best interest to do so.”

There you have it. Pure selfishness and ego.

So, what do you call people who believe the above; who have lost the US many millions of allies in the past half decade?

I am not an America basher because, whatever they may call themselves, they certainly do not reflect the true spirit of America.

I can't believe I found another chomsky fan on this neocon safe haven! I've read a lot of the reports and I agree with everything you said. I think the most interesting line out of the 9/11 commission was that America now believes it has the right to invade "any nation with the ABILITY" to create weapons of mass destruction, I can't think of who this disqualifies from potential US invasion.