John McCain's Shameful Vote - Page 2

Professor Peabody · #11 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 03:54 PM

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PROCUREMENT
Procurement of Ammunition, Army
Other Procurement, Army
Aircraft Procurement, Navy
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Procurement of Ammunition, Navy and Marine Corps
Shipbuilding and Conversion, Navy
(INCLUDING TRANSFER OF FUNDS)
Other Procurement, Navy
Aircraft Procurement, Air Force
Procurement, Defense-Wide
RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, TEST AND EVALUATION
Research, Development, Test and Evaluation, Navy
Research, Development, Test and Evaluation, Air Force
Research, Development, Test and Evaluation, Defense-Wide
REVOLVING AND MANAGEMENT FUNDS
Defense Working Capital Funds
National Defense Sealift Fund
TRUST FUNDS
General Fund Payment, Surcharge Collections, Sales of Commissary Stores, Defense
OTHER DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE PROGRAMS
Defense Health Program
GENERAL PROVISION--THIS CHAPTER
CHAPTER 3
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE--CIVIL
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
Corps of Engineers--Civil
CONSTRUCTION
FLOOD CONTROL AND COASTAL EMERGENCIES
CHAPTER 4
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
Office of Inspector General
(INCLUDING TRANSFERS OF FUNDS)-
Page: S3607
Customs and Border Protection
SALARIES AND EXPENSES
CONSTRUCTION
United States Coast Guard
OPERATING EXPENSES
(INCLUDING TRANSFER OF FUNDS)
ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION, AND IMPROVEMENTS
Federal Emergency Management Agency
ADMINISTRATIVE AND REGIONAL OPERATIONS
PREPAREDNESS, MITIGATION, RESPONSE AND RECOVERY
DISASTER RELIEF
DISASTER ASSISTANCE DIRECT LOAN PROGRAM ACCOUNT
(INCLUDING TRANSFER OF FUNDS)
GENERAL PROVISIONS--THIS CHAPTER
CHAPTER 5
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
United States Fish and Wildlife Service
CONSTRUCTION-
National Park Service
HISTORIC PRESERVATION FUND-
CONSTRUCTION-
United States Geological Survey
SURVEYS, INVESTIGATIONS, AND RESEARCH-
Minerals Management Service
ROYALTY AND OFFSHORE MINERALS MANAGEMENT-
Page: S3608
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS AND MANAGEMENT
LEAKING UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANK PROGRAM
DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
Forest Service
NATIONAL FOREST SYSTEM-
CHAPTER 6
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
MILITARY CONSTRUCTION
Military Construction, Navy and Marine Corps-
Military Construction, Air Force-
Military Construction, Army National Guard-
Military Construction, Air National Guard-
Military Construction, Navy Reserve
(INCLUDING RESCISSION OF FUNDS)
DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
Departmental Administration
CONSTRUCTION, MAJOR PROJECTS
(INCLUDING TRANSFER OF FUNDS)
CHAPTER 7
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
Legal Activities
SALARIES AND EXPENSES, GENERAL LEGAL ACTIVITIES
SALARIES AND EXPENSES, UNITED STATES ATTORNEYS
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
PROCUREMENT, ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION
SCIENCE
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
EXPLORATION CAPABILITIES-
RELATED AGENCIES
Small Business Administration
DISASTER LOANS PROGRAM ACCOUNT
(INCLUDING TRANSFERS OF FUNDS)-
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CHAPTER 8
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
Community Planning and Development
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUND
(INCLUDING TRANSFER OF FUNDS)
INDEPENDENT AGENCY
General Services Administration
FEDERAL BUILDINGS FUND
TITLE III--GENERAL PROVISIONS AND TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS
(INCLUDING RESCISSION OF FUNDS)
Page: S3610
TITLE IV
PANDEMIC FLU
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
Office of the Secretary
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES EMERGENCY FUND
TITLE V--BORDER SECURITY
EMERGENCY SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR BORDER SECURITY
Department of Homeland Security
OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY AND EXECUTIVE MANAGEMENT
OFFICE OF THE CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER
UNITED STATES VISITOR AND IMMIGRATION STATUS INDICATOR TECHNOLOGY
Customs and Border Protection
SALARIES AND EXPENSES
Page: S3611
AIR AND MARINE INTERDICTION, OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE, AND PROCUREMENT
CONSTRUCTION
Immigration and Customs Enforcement
SALARIES AND EXPENSES
United States Coast Guard
acquisition, construction and improvements
Federal Law Enforcement Training Center
ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION, IMPROVEMENTS, AND RELATED EXPENSES
GENERAL PROVISIONS--THIS TITLE
REDUCTION IN FUNDING
AUTHORITY TO EQUALIZE ALLOWANCES, BENEFITS, AND GRATUITIES OF PERSONNEL ON...
GENERAL PROVISIONS-THIS CHAPTER
Page: S3612
``CHAPTER 56--TEMPORARY WINDFALL PROFITS ON CRUDE OIL
``Chapter 56. Temporary Windfall Profit on Crude Oil.''.
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES EMERGENCY FUND
SMALL BUSINESS RELIEF FROM HURRICANE KATRINA AND HURRICANE RITA
Page: S3613
ALLOCATION OF HURRICANE DISASTER RELIEF AND RECOVERY FUNDS TO STATES
COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW ON PROCEDURES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE ON MORTUARY...
GENERAL PROVISIONS--THIS CHAPTER
HURRICANE RESPONSE PLAN FOR THE 2006 HURRICANE SEASON
Page: S3614
GENERAL PROVISIONS--THIS CHAPTER
DISASTER LOAN PROGRAM MONTHLY ACCOUNTING REPORT
NONREDUCTION IN PAY WHILE FEDERAL EMPLOYEE IS PERFORMING ACTIVE SERVICE IN THE...
TITLE VIII--OIL COMPANY ACOUNTABILITY
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DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
VETERANS HEALTH ADMINISTRATION
MEDICAL SERVICES
FEDERAL FUELS LIST
Page: S3616
Page: S3617
TITLE VIII--OIL COMPANY ACOUNTABILITY
NEXT GENERATION PROTECTIVE GEAR FOR SMALL-ARMS AND BIOTERRORISM THREATS TO TROOPS
INCOME REPLACEMENT PAYMENTS FOR RESERVES EXPERIENCING EXTENDED AND FREQUENT...
Customs and Border Protection
DEMOCRACY PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES IN IRAN
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Page: S3620
DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
VETERANS HEALTH ADMINISTRATION
MEDICAL SERVICES
RENAMING OF DEATH GRATUITY PAYABLE FOR DEATHS OF MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES AS...
HAZARDOUS FUELS AND FOREST HEALTH PROJECTS
SENSE OF THE SENATE ON DESTRUCTION OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS
DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
Departmental Administration
general operating expenses
DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS
Support for mental health and readjustment programs
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MEDICAL SERVICES
Report on Assistance for Iraq
INELIGIBILITY FOR ADMISSION FOR ALIENS
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INELIGIBILITY FOR ADMISSION FOR ALIENS
PROHIBITION OF FUNDS FOR OIL AND NATURAL GAS ROYALTY RELIEF
PROHIBITION ON USE OF FUNDS FOR CONDEMNATION OF LAND LOCATED NEAR PINON CANYON
LA LOUTRE RIDGE PROJECT
``CHAPTER 56--WINDFALL PROFITS ON CRUDE OIL
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``Chapter 56. Windfall Profit on Crude Oil.''.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...:FLD001:S53620

Highlighted in bold are the items that have absolutely NO relation to Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans. I increased the text size for items relating to Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.

Since your so disgusted with McCain's vote, please provide us with a link as to exactly how much funding the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans, were slated to receive that they wouldn't have if the bill failed. It looks like a gigantic pork barrel to me. What do the highlighted items have to do with veterans?

Greco · #12 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 03:54 PM

"The bill is a result of close collaboration between my administration and members of both parties on Capitol Hill. … I want to thank members who worked hard for the GI Bill expansion, especially Senators Webb and Warner, Graham, Burr, McCain. This bill shows that even in an election year, Democrats and Republicans can come together to stand behind our troops."

Here's the link... http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/30/...ain-credit-gi/

Taomon · #13 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Greco

On April 26, 2008 the United States Senate voted on a bill "To provide an additional $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans." The vote was 84 yeas and 13 nays.

Senator John McCain, that great "supporter of veterans" was one of only 13 senators, to vote AGAINST supporting veterans. There is another other observations about this shameful vote that is worth noting:

Every single "nay" vote against supporting veterans was cast by a Republican. Every single Democrat voted "yea".

Are Republicans proud of this vote? When the chips were down and it really counted, John McCain voted "nay". I wonder what veterans think about a candidate running for president that's willing to keep our troops locked in a needless war, but votes "nay" against benefits for veterans.

If you think this is just so much political hype, or made up, here's a link direct to the United States Senate that lists the bill, the date, the purpose of the bill, and details alphabetically who voted "aye" and who voted "nay".

You can't deny the truth, but I suppose you can continue to excuse the shameful acts.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=2&vote=00098

I am no supporter of John McCain by any stretch of the imagination. But he is a veteran. I am wondering what was in that bill that he opposed. Was there an earmark that he disagreed with?

Professor Peabody · #14 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 04:26 PM

Cut off the internet, I lost the rest of my post sorry!

Professor Peabody · #15 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Greco

"The bill is a result of close collaboration between my administration and members of both parties on Capitol Hill. … I want to thank members who worked hard for the GI Bill expansion, especially Senators Webb and Warner, Graham, Burr, McCain. This bill shows that even in an election year, Democrats and Republicans can come together to stand behind our troops."

Here's the link... http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/30/...ain-credit-gi/

Please don't quote stink progress it's a nut case blog by John Podesta.

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Clinton aide slams Pentagon's UFO secrecy

By Richard Stenger
CNN
Tuesday, October 22, 2002 Posted: 3:09 PM EDT (1909 GMT)

(CNN) -- One winter night in 1965, eyewitnesses saw a fireball streak over North America, bank, turn and appear to crash in western Pennsylvania. Then swarms of military personnel combed the area and a tarp-covered flatbed truck rumbled out of the woods.

Now a former White House chief of staff and an international investigative journalist want to know what the Pentagon knows, calling on it to release classified files about that and other incidents involving unidentified flying objects, or UFOs.

"It is time for the government to declassify records that are more than 25 years old and to provide scientists with data that will assist in determining the real nature of this phenomenon," ex-Clinton aide (Chief of Staff) John Podesta said Tuesday.

Podesta was one of numerous political and media heavyweights on hand in Washington, D.C., to announce a new group to gain access to secret government records about UFOs.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/sp...rds/index.html

Say isn't this the same guy that heads that thinkprogres.org, center for American Progress? Whee doggie Uncle Jed, he's might be seein UFO's! The 60's were a little rough on this bloke...eh? He's a big X-Files Fan, maybe he thinks he's the Cigarette Smoking Man? Why does anyone quote crap from his website anyway?

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If "why" is such a compelling reason, what is it? The fact is, John McCain was one of only 13 senators, all Republicans, that voted against the veterans.

He voted against a huge barrel of Democrat pork, not the Vets.

Greco · #16 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 05:15 PM

It's a video of George W. Bush. The source doesn't matter.

It's still George W. Bush on the video. It's still George W. Bush saying the words. It's still George W. Bush trying to take claim for the bill he opposed. It's still George W. Bush praising John McCain for his support, when John McCain actually voted against it.

You might not like the source, but it's just a video of George W. Bush making a fool of himself and John McCain. There are lots of other sources that show that.

Professor Peabody · #17 (**permalink**) 07-01-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Greco

It's a video of George W. Bush. The source doesn't matter.

It's still George W. Bush on the video. It's still George W. Bush saying the words. It's still George W. Bush trying to take claim for the bill he opposed. It's still George W. Bush praising John McCain for his support, when John McCain actually voted against it.

You might not like the source, but it's just a video of George W. Bush making a fool of himself and John McCain. There are lots of other sources that show that.

Taken out of context, as they usually do. McCain's support was a no vote to avoid billions of wasteful spending on tons of thing BUT NOT doing much for the Vets. Just a Democrat smoke and mirrors, let's not and say we did bill titled deceptively.

The statement of purpose of the bill is deceptive:

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To provide an additional $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.

Yet as you dig into the text of the amendment as I posted above, very little appears to be going to the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans. Why would spending $430 Billion dollars a lot of thing BUT the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans, be a help to veterans?

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BILATERAL ECONOMIC ASSISTANCE
Funds Appropriated to the President
UNITED STATES AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT
CHILD SURVIVAL AND HEALTH PROGRAMS FUND -
DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE
INTERNATIONAL DISASTER FAMINE ASSISTANCE
OPERATING EXPENSES OF THE UNITED STATES AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT
Other Bilateral Economic Assistance
ECONOMIC SUPPORT FUND-
Department of State
DEMOCRACY FUND-
INTERNATIONAL NARCOTICS CONTROL AND LAW ENFORCEMENT
MIGRATION AND REFUGEE ASSISTANCE
Department of the Treasury
INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE-
MILITARY ASSISTANCE
DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
PROCUREMENT, ACQUISITION AND CONSTRUCTION
SCIENCE
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
EXPLORATION CAPABILITIES-
RELATED AGENCIES
Small Business Administration
DISASTER LOANS PROGRAM ACCOUNT
(INCLUDING TRANSFERS OF FUNDS)-
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CHAPTER 8
DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
Community Planning and Development
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUND
(INCLUDING TRANSFER OF FUNDS)
INDEPENDENT AGENCY
General Services Administration
FEDERAL BUILDINGS FUND
TITLE III--GENERAL PROVISIONS AND TECHNICAL CORRECTIONS
(INCLUDING RESCISSION OF FUNDS)
Page: S3610
TITLE IV
PANDEMIC FLU
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
Office of the Secretary
PUBLIC HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES EMERGENCY FUND

This is only a partial list, look at my posts above for the full list. How dows funding these help Vets?

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