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Old 07-01-2008, 12:28 PM
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Under the Bus:

* NEW! Move-On.org

* NEW! Wesley Clark (sorta)

* Grandma Dunham

* Rev. Jeremiah Wright

* Fr. Michael Pleger

* Michael Klonsky

* Muslim supporters

* babies that survive abortion attempts

* 8,000 Members of Trinity Church of Christ

* Samatha Power

* Obama advisor/Hamas friend Rob Malley

* Austin Goolsbee

* Tony Rezko

* a less than week-old pseudo-presidential seal

* bitter, gun toting, religious white people of rural Pennsylvania

* Scarlet Johansson

Clinging to the Bumper:

* Marilyn Katz (former SDS radical, Obama campaign PR professional)

* Carl Davidson (former SDS radical, Fidel Castro Fan, webmaster of Progressives for Obama)

* Michelle Obama

* half-brother Abongo Obama, a militant Muslim

* "Uncle Frank" Frank Marshall Davis, role model/mentor and member of the Communist Party USA, poet who authored "Smash-on, victory-eating Red Army"

* Bill Ayers, domestic terrorist and long-time friend

* Bernadine Dorhn, Ayer's wife, fellow domestic terrorist. and Manson Family admirer.

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Old 07-01-2008, 05:38 PM
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Obama's welcome to throw me under the bus any time. It's not really about me, and never was.

Although the far right has this wacko idea that I'm his 'Marxist Mentor,' if he remembers my name at all, it's as the guy who bugged him from time to time to spend more money on afterschool programs. I'd like to see people vote for him as our 'best option' to stop this horrible, unjust and stupid war, but technically speaking, I don't even endorse him, so he doesn't even have to reject it, since it was never made. Our 'Progressives for Obama' website has no conection to him or his campaign, and we like it that way, so we can publish positions that are often critical of him.

Besides, the whole notion that Obama is a socialist is silly. I've been on the chicago left for decade, and he's never been part of it. He started as an Alinksky reformer and evolved into the liberal he is today.

Obama is a 'high road' industrial policy capitalist and multipolar globalist--just read his Cooper Union speech a while back. Clinton is a garden-variety corporate liberal capitalist, which got her on the board of Walmart for years. And McCain is a US hegemonist and an unreconstructed neoliberal capitalist--'state all evil, market all good'--that kind that says 'We're in business to make money, not steel, so we'll gut these plants and speculate in oil futures, and the workers and towns be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.' In other words, the ones who 'cut taxes' by putting everything on the China Visa card and got us into this mess.

Actually, truth be told, Obama's brand of capitalism is best for productive businesses, as opposed to most speculators, and does least harm to the working class. That doesn't mean we can't press him to be better at it, as in promoting and building infrastructure for new green businesses and green jobs for youth. All those solar panels and wave and wind turbines have to be built somewhere by someone.

If you want to criticize him, this is what he really stands for. But you'll have to graduate from the nasty name calling of the kindergarten sandox, if you want to play with the big kids, let alone the grownups.
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That's a sweet ride. Should be great in traffic, and those missile launchers should come in handy for those foolish enough to cut off the Barackatank.
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carldavidson don't count on it. that superdude17 is a 17 year old kid. he has no idea what he's doing or talking about.
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carldavidson don't count on it. that superdude17 is a 17 year old kid. he has no idea what he's doing or talking about.
lol, now we need to bring in the age factor.

i am guessing you are not much older, either direction.
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carldavidson don't count on it. that superdude17 is a 17 year old kid. he has no idea what he's doing or talking about.
Right, age automatically proves that SD has no idea what he's doing or talking about. Why don't you try debating the issue at hand rather then thinking that attacking the poster's age automatically invalidates his OP.
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that was in reference to carldavidson's kindergarten name calling sandbox comments which I mentioned his age being relevant to the majority of his posts.
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Right, age automatically proves that SD has no idea what he's doing or talking about. Why don't you try debating the issue at hand rather then thinking that attacking the poster's age automatically invalidates his OP.
wa wa wa, why don't you go cry to mommy...or DuBois, whoever.
...there is nothing to argue. if he wants to debate my age, then i am not going to debate back. thats a stupid debate, aussie. how's that for a debate? aussie.
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wa wa wa....there is nothing to argue. if he wants to debate my age, then i am not going to debate back. thats a stupid debate, aussie. how's that for a debate? aussie.
Uhh, Dude, i was on your side for the age issue.
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Uhh, Dude, i was on your side for the age issue.
ahh, i misread. it appeared to me that you were debating my age. my apologies. never thought you would be on my side. regardless, my debating skills are equal to anyone's on here, as long as it is something worth debating.
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