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Originally Posted by Rebellion";p="
I'll save my sadness for something infinitely more important than a terrorist getting waterboarded. Such as whether to have chicken or beef for dinner tonight. Or whether I want to wear blue trousers or black. His testimony lead to the direct capture of other terrorists. While in theory we shouldn't torture, in situations like this I'm willing to look the other way. So much for the "torture never works" argument. I do find the obstruction of justice part a tad bothersome, but on the other hand if whistleblowing (which can be a crime) is considered ok for the common good then the same argument can be made here.
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Since everyone on the right seems to be huge 24 fans, lets go through another hypothetical.
Lets say the CIA tortures hundreds of people who are suspected of torture. Lots are terrorists, but it would take a fool to believe the CIA is perfect and would never torture an innocent. So the CIA tortures all these people and they get absolutely no useful information. Why would someone who is willing to blow themselves up give away information when they could just as easily lie?
Do you think the CIA is going to say they didn't get any useful info? Or are they going to claim that the did get some intel to save their own asses?
And to Rebellion, since you seem to think that morality and religion are important to the way we govern. Who would Jesus torture?