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So if you can cite any cases that our government violated their constitutional rights, your point is moot.
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Bush issued an Executive Order telling the NSA to feel free to violate FISA and wiretap without warrants.
The administration has admitted to doing as much. They are attempting to give immunity to companies that have helped wiretap without warrants .They are trying to pass a bill that will allow them to do that with impunity in the future.
Please explain why you think that, given these facts, the NSA has strangely enough NOT actually wiretapped without a warrant.
Not knowing which specific individuals have been tapped is irrelevant, and impossible. You do realize how silly you sound asking me to know the inside details of a secret government program, don't you?
It is already easy and confidential to obtain a warrant
even after surveillance has begun.
Please explain to me why obtaining FISC warrants are insufficient.
Furthermore, as nonsqtr brought up, we also have a Right to Redress as garunteed by the 1st. The administration is trying to create a bizarre new precedent, granting immunity to an entire industry for crimes they have committed before all the facts about those crimes are in.
Please explain why the telecoms need to be let off the hook for helping to violate the law when they could have chosen not to instead?
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Again, pending, means nothing, or do you live in a different America?
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Pending means that the case has yet to be decided. It could be ruled guilty or innocent. If justice prevails then heads will roll.
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Everyone has addressed your points, and you claim that rights are being violated, yet you can't cite any.
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Then it should be easy for you to answer the questions above, shouldn't it?