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Originally Posted by BroncoBilly";p="
Amazing how the lefty liberal loons accuse the right of fear mongering, especially since you all are doing the same thing with our ability to spy on foreign nationals and those that reside in this country that want to destroy us. The difference being, we have been attacked, we have been threatened, we have caught terrorist islamic scum time after time, yes those islamofacist scum are suppose to get a free pass according to you. Only the smallest percentage of you lefty freaks are loosing sleep over this, the rest of America isn't.
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Incredible. I thought ignorance like this had long departed the planet.
Guess I was wrong.....
Hey, ah, Bronco.... these Islamist idiots are
criminals, bud.
They
oughta be policed by their own people, in their own countries.
And, they're starting to do just that.
But you know, from a "belief" perspective, these Islamist nut cases, are the exact same thing as Young-Earth creationists.
The
only difference in that case, is the type of "behavior", that their beliefs cause them to emit.
You know, and you want to sit here and tell me that the United States Government isn't one of the worst offenders, in the space of "belief"?
I mean, ha ha ha he he he ho ho ho snicker snort.... :gigg;e:
Bronco, I got a novel concept for you - it's called "evidence".
Test your beliefs with
evidence.
So ah.... let's go on to the next one then, shall we?
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Originally Posted by BroncoBilly";p="
Yet, the reality is, not one of you can give an example of our government abusing anyone's rights, and creating a Gestapo type atmosphere in the United States, just your fear mongering, "it could happen" scenario. Pathetic hypocrites, and nothing more, you don't want them gathering information on terrorists, yet you have never offered one single solution to our dilemma in a free society such as the United States.
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You guys don't listen very good.
That's like, "your" characteristic behavior.
Your head is stuck so deep into the partisan political sand, that you
can't hear a god(*)(*)(*)(*) thing anyone else is saying, 'cause your ears are under-freakin'-ground!!!
"Never offered a single solution"..... you know, that's just a crock of brown excrement. I've heard THOUSANDS of viable solutions from the left side of the aisle. What about the Biden-Levin-Reed plan? That would have
worked.
But Bushie's plan, didn't
work. It's not working
now. It never
did work. It wpn't work in the
future either. Bushie is just a god(*)(*)(*)(*)
idiot, 'cause he thinks he can clobber people over the head with American values.
Bronco, I'm telling
you, the same thing I told SS, and Glitch, and if that miscreant George W Bush ever shows his face in my neighborhood, I'm gonna tie that m/f down and make sure he
listens for half an hour, till I'm entirely convinced he
understands this concept.
I don't
care about your stinkin' values. They mean
nothing to me. Keep your values to
yourself. Don't you
dare impose 'em in my space. If you try that kinda crap, I'm gonna push back against you with everything I've got.
Why?
'Cause I can't DO anything about your (*)(*)(*)(*) values. I can't change 'em, fix 'em, adjust 'em, convince 'em, or anything else. They're
yours, they're not
mine. The stuff that's "mine" is "my" time, "my" feelings, "my" perceptions - but not YOUR values. Get it?
Remember Reinhold Niehbuhr? "God, grant me the serenity, to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference".
That latter part there, is the part I'm trying to convey to you.
BEHAVIOR, is coercible. Politically. "Behavior", you can regulate, through any one of a thousand mechanisms. "Law enforcement" comes to mind.....
But "belief", you can
not regulate, you can't coerce it, and you can't clobber people over the head with it. It doesn't work that way. All that does, is cause
resentment.
What you gotta do, is show people
operational models. And then, let those models, take on a life of their own.
That's how it works. And if you're too god(*)(*)(*)(*) impatient to wait for the natural results in those cases, then you're a
menace to society - that makes you
dangerous for We the People.
So, I mean, everything you're seeing right now in Iraq - the "Anbar surprise" for instance, is
exactly that.
But
that, that "success" or whatever you want to call it, is due to
one man who actually
understands this concept I'm raising with you now -
And his name, is General Petraeus.
It's specifically
not George W Bush.
Bushie is just a freakin'
idiot in this space, he's a mental midget when it comes to the science of diplomacy. He thinks politics is all about assuaging the sheeple, and I mean, if you're that
stupid you shouldn't be the President of the United States.
General Petraeus oughta run for President, in my opinion.
You know, I mean, look
around Bronco. The mil does its job, correctly and efficiently,
every single freakin' time.
But the politicians, fail miserably at everything they touch,
every single freakin' time.
What do you think? Is there an element of truth in what I'm saying?
You know,
no one I know,
no one, has said we oughta "let these terrorists go", or "do nothing about them", or anything like that.
That would be fear-mongering, to make the accusation that anyone has said such a thing.
The only thing "the left" is saying, that you aren't liking, is that Bushie's
method, his "model" for how he's going to accomplish this task, is
seriously flawed. And I mean, you see those results, right? They're right in front of you, and there's no denyin' 'em. Four trillion dollars and four years later, Bushie was so deep in sh** that he had to find the
one and only man in America that could get him out of it, and that man, was General Petraeus.
That's reality. Are you gonna tell me something different?