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Old 12-19-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default here's an OSTRICH mentality

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Originally Posted by BroncoBilly";p=&quot View Post
Amazing how the lefty liberal loons accuse the right of fear mongering, especially since you all are doing the same thing with our ability to spy on foreign nationals and those that reside in this country that want to destroy us. The difference being, we have been attacked, we have been threatened, we have caught terrorist islamic scum time after time, yes those islamofacist scum are suppose to get a free pass according to you. Only the smallest percentage of you lefty freaks are loosing sleep over this, the rest of America isn't.
Incredible. I thought ignorance like this had long departed the planet.

Guess I was wrong.....

Hey, ah, Bronco.... these Islamist idiots are criminals, bud.

They oughta be policed by their own people, in their own countries.

And, they're starting to do just that.

But you know, from a "belief" perspective, these Islamist nut cases, are the exact same thing as Young-Earth creationists.

The only difference in that case, is the type of "behavior", that their beliefs cause them to emit.

You know, and you want to sit here and tell me that the United States Government isn't one of the worst offenders, in the space of "belief"?

I mean, ha ha ha he he he ho ho ho snicker snort.... :gigg;e:



Bronco, I got a novel concept for you - it's called "evidence".

Test your beliefs with evidence.

So ah.... let's go on to the next one then, shall we?

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Originally Posted by BroncoBilly";p=&quot View Post
Yet, the reality is, not one of you can give an example of our government abusing anyone's rights, and creating a Gestapo type atmosphere in the United States, just your fear mongering, "it could happen" scenario. Pathetic hypocrites, and nothing more, you don't want them gathering information on terrorists, yet you have never offered one single solution to our dilemma in a free society such as the United States.
You guys don't listen very good.

That's like, "your" characteristic behavior.

Your head is stuck so deep into the partisan political sand, that you can't hear a god(*)(*)(*)(*) thing anyone else is saying, 'cause your ears are under-freakin'-ground!!!

"Never offered a single solution"..... you know, that's just a crock of brown excrement. I've heard THOUSANDS of viable solutions from the left side of the aisle. What about the Biden-Levin-Reed plan? That would have worked.

But Bushie's plan, didn't work. It's not working now. It never did work. It wpn't work in the future either. Bushie is just a god(*)(*)(*)(*) idiot, 'cause he thinks he can clobber people over the head with American values.

Bronco, I'm telling you, the same thing I told SS, and Glitch, and if that miscreant George W Bush ever shows his face in my neighborhood, I'm gonna tie that m/f down and make sure he listens for half an hour, till I'm entirely convinced he understands this concept.

I don't care about your stinkin' values. They mean nothing to me. Keep your values to yourself. Don't you dare impose 'em in my space. If you try that kinda crap, I'm gonna push back against you with everything I've got.

Why?

'Cause I can't DO anything about your (*)(*)(*)(*) values. I can't change 'em, fix 'em, adjust 'em, convince 'em, or anything else. They're yours, they're not mine. The stuff that's "mine" is "my" time, "my" feelings, "my" perceptions - but not YOUR values. Get it?

Remember Reinhold Niehbuhr? "God, grant me the serenity, to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference".

That latter part there, is the part I'm trying to convey to you.

BEHAVIOR, is coercible. Politically. "Behavior", you can regulate, through any one of a thousand mechanisms. "Law enforcement" comes to mind.....

But "belief", you can not regulate, you can't coerce it, and you can't clobber people over the head with it. It doesn't work that way. All that does, is cause resentment.

What you gotta do, is show people operational models. And then, let those models, take on a life of their own. That's how it works. And if you're too god(*)(*)(*)(*) impatient to wait for the natural results in those cases, then you're a menace to society - that makes you dangerous for We the People.

So, I mean, everything you're seeing right now in Iraq - the "Anbar surprise" for instance, is exactly that.

But that, that "success" or whatever you want to call it, is due to one man who actually understands this concept I'm raising with you now -

And his name, is General Petraeus.

It's specifically not George W Bush.

Bushie is just a freakin' idiot in this space, he's a mental midget when it comes to the science of diplomacy. He thinks politics is all about assuaging the sheeple, and I mean, if you're that stupid you shouldn't be the President of the United States.

General Petraeus oughta run for President, in my opinion.

You know, I mean, look around Bronco. The mil does its job, correctly and efficiently, every single freakin' time.

But the politicians, fail miserably at everything they touch, every single freakin' time.

What do you think? Is there an element of truth in what I'm saying?

You know, no one I know, no one, has said we oughta "let these terrorists go", or "do nothing about them", or anything like that. That would be fear-mongering, to make the accusation that anyone has said such a thing.

The only thing "the left" is saying, that you aren't liking, is that Bushie's method, his "model" for how he's going to accomplish this task, is seriously flawed. And I mean, you see those results, right? They're right in front of you, and there's no denyin' 'em. Four trillion dollars and four years later, Bushie was so deep in sh** that he had to find the one and only man in America that could get him out of it, and that man, was General Petraeus.

That's reality. Are you gonna tell me something different?
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