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You're basically trying to tell me that the government can do "whatever it wants" in the name of national security
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I do not recall making that claim. Can you please quote me?
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Well, I mean, that "viewpoint", would be contrary to both the letter and spirit of the United States Constitution.
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Probably. But it is irrelvant, since I never made that claim.
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The government has no "right" to wiretap your phone.
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Semantics. The government has the "right" to detain you if you are suspected of a crime, for example. Yes, the government has "rights" in that context.
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The law says, that any kind of surveillance, requires a warrant.
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That is not up to you. You do not get the final say.
The judicial branch has decided in the past that the Constitution says the President has similar powers, so there is precedent. Until Bush is convicted of a crime, your opinion is just that...your opinion.
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"Law enforcement officials", throughout history, have made every excuse under the sun for why they "shouldn't be required to obtain a warrant"
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Did any of them cite national defense as a reason?
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But We the People, have consistently told them, that they gotta have a warrant.
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Then "we the people" will convict Bush of a crime. Right?
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That concept has been up to the Supreme Court, literally hundreds of times.
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Then what are you worried about? A conviction is sure to happen, right?
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So if the President of the United States, is just gonna ignore the law,
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He's not ignoring the law. He simply has a different interpretation than you do. And the courts have agreed with his interpretation in the past.
nonsqtr doesnt get the final say on what is or is not legal.
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and do whatever he wants to do in spite of what the law says, then my feeling is, he oughta be impeached. Immediately.
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Must suck for you that the majority dont agree.
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So as far as I'm concerned, that's the end of the story.
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I guess its a good thing for Bush that he doesnt require your personal approval eh?
Actually, thats wrong. What I meant to say was that its a good thing for ALL OF US that he doesnt require your personal approval.
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Hey SS, you know, this idea goes all the way back to the Magna Carta, in the year 1200-something, wherein it says, "no man is above the law, not even the King".
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Another straw man. I dont recall ever making the claim that anyone was above the law.
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Don't sit there and tell me GW gets to do "whatever he wants" in the name of national security
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When did I say that he could?
All I said was that he can do THIS in the name of national security.
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Rights are inviolable, SS.
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You do not have an absolute right to privacy.
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The government doesn't have the Power to strip you of your Rights.
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I agree. They are not stripping you of any rights in this context.
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Well, whatever. Bushie's history. He's out of office in 300 days
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...and will be replaced with another neocon. This should be fun.
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You guys have failed. You've failed miserably, and it's 'cause your model sucks. It's non-operational, it "doesn't work".
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You seem awfully worried for someone who claims to be convinced that our model has failed.