Well, I think that's pretty much a QED.

I feel like I can rest my case now.

I mean, there's "enough" verbiage here, so the boundaries oughta be pretty clear.

SS is being a good little Neo-Con, did you check that out? First he's waving his hands around what he said, and then he's still trying to convince me that the government has rights!

(The "right" to detain you? Gimme a gigantic freakin' BREAK!!!! They have the Power to detain you, not the Right. You don't even know what the words mean, SS, so how can you be sittin' there tellin' me what the contract means? ) -

So I mean, you know, this whole thread, is a perfect example of "Neo-Cons in action". I mean, they're gonna tell you kinda "part" of the truth, and then a bunch of "half-truths", and then sprinkled in there somewhere is the one big lie that weaves the whole thing into a coherent fabric.

And the lie is: the government has Rights.

That would be bull-pucky.

Because, it's not in the contract.

If it is, show me.

You can't do it, can you? Didn't think so.... (still)......

You see, this is the lie of the collectivist-Statist mentality, and it's exactly why Ron Paul is so popular right now. Kooky as he is, he stands for something important, and he's getting traction and resonance on that basis.

And George W Bush, is not. He's going deeper into the toilet bowl with every passing day. And now he's trying to convince us that he's "gracefully climbing out of it" when in reality we can all see him slipping right back into the septic waste.

The government has no Rights, SS. It doesn't even have the right to survive. Think about it.