Merry go round? Then you must be dizzy
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What we agree on is, people were tapped, so what, it is not you that makes our laws, you may not like it, but that is the way it is,
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Its like arguing on a merry-go-round. I can say whatever I want, but you don't listen, and end up right back where you started.
But, as an exercise in patience. Here we go again.
I'm not saying I make the laws. But, I did point out the laws already made. The Supreme Court has ruled on this, FISA has ruled on this, the laws are on the books, and they say YOU CANNOT WIRETAP WITHOUT A WARRANT. Just plain can't. No good, not allowed, nuh uh, ixnay, nein! Its not my opinion, its a fact of the legal system. So please, either put up some evidence that I'm incorrect, or just give it up and admit when you're wrong.
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and that is the point, old laws changed, new laws implimented, and that is the way it is.
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The laws have yet to be changed. Seriously. All of the laws against warrantless wiretapping are still on the books. And, they were on the books when Bush gave his orders. BUSH and the NSA BROKE the LAW. You haven't provided a shred of evidence citing otherwise. Your just beating your fist against the wall with the same tired talking points we've all heard before.
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I'd suggest not contacting anyone in the middle east, because you will be caught.
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And I was really hoping to wish Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a very merry Christmas too. (*)(*)(*)(*).
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I was in Vietnam, and we will hunt you down, and take you out. We didn't lose any war in Vietnam, and we lost no battles, we just left, end of story. America is still the king of the hill, no matter how much those that hate us, we are supreme, we can kick anyone on this planets ass, and that is the bottom line, the same happened in Nam, the same will happen in the war on terror. Fu*k with the bull, and you will get the horns.
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I'm really sorry to hear that you were in such a terrible conflict. It must have been awful. But, living in a rage induced denial of the state of the world, clinging to old comforting thoughts of American superiority, and doing it to advocate brutality and suppression of basic freedoms is no way to go about life. Please Billy, let go of the ignorance, and the hatred, and the sadness. You're hurting yourself, and infecting the people that have to listen to your poisoned rhetoric.
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The unity in this nation was so awesome when we got whacked, and if it happens again, those that complain about this goofy stuff, will be silenced, and you can bank on that.
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Its a shame that you see defending the Constitution and the basic rights of Americans as "goofy stuff." I thought you were supposed to be a red blooded Republican. Where's your honor?
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As any true liberal loon, you display your pompous arrogant ignorance again and again. Laws broken? Then arrest them? Why are you liberal loons whining about it, arrest whom ever broke constitutional laws. Why is this so hard?
You have an interpretation of our constitution and so do others, and your interpretation is going to the senate to be voted on, with the likelihood going to what the original post was, you lose, and the rest of us that see it differently win. BTW, you may want to contact all the senators voting on this issue, the majority being democrat, I'm sure they would love to hear from you. As I said time and time again, the democrats in control also want to protect our nation, and it is not their best interests or any one's interests to allow even one disastrous event to occur.
Yes, Vietnam was a terrible atrocity, an atrocity of Americans like you spitting on us, and calling us baby killers for those of us that served. You probably never take into account the millions of Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians that made it to America to embrace our nation, liberals like you always see the glass half empty instead of half full, and that is the pathetic part of your ideological lunacy.
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Cheney is the second executive officer to shoot someone in the face and chest. Clinton was the first.
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