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DuH2 · #4 (**permalink**) 12-29-2007, 08:54 PM

What Civil War?

'Civil War' is just a convenient shroud to apply when stating "lets run away from al Qaeda in Iraq&Friends" wouldn't work.

Most Iraqis reject the concept.

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March 2007
Resilient Iraqis ask what civil war?

DESPITE sectarian slaughter, ethnic cleansing and suicide bombs, an opinion poll conducted on the eve of the fourth anniversary of the US-led invasion of Iraq has found a striking resilience and optimism among the inhabitants.

The poll, the biggest since coalition troops entered Iraq on March 20, 2003, shows that by a majority of two to one, Iraqis prefer the current leadership to Saddam Hussein’s regime, regardless of the security crisis and a lack of public services.

The survey, published today, also reveals that contrary to the views of many western analysts, most Iraqis do not believe they are embroiled in a civil war.

Officials in Washington and London are likely to be buoyed by the poll conducted by Opinion Research Business (ORB), a respected British market research company that funded its own survey of 5,019 Iraqis over the age of 18.

The 400 interviewers who fanned out across Iraq last month found that the sense of security felt by Baghdad residents had significantly improved since polling carried out before the US announced in January that it was sending in a “surge” of more than 20,000 extra troops.

The poll highlights the impact the sectarian violence has had. Some 26% of Iraqis - 15% of Sunnis and 34% of Shi’ites - have suffered the murder of a family member. Kidnapping has also played a terrifying role: 14% have had a relative, friend or colleague abducted, rising to 33% in Baghdad.

Yet 49% of those questioned preferred life under Nouri al-Maliki, the prime minister, to living under Saddam. Only 26% said things had been better in Saddam’s era, while 16% said the two leaders were as bad as each other and the rest did not know or refused to answer.

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Another surprise was that only 27% believed they were caught up in a civil war. Again, that number divided along religious lines, with 41% of Sunnis believing Iraq was in a civil war, compared with only 15% of Shi’ites.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1530526.ece

A manufactured(aka fake) 'Civil War' to aid in the rhetoric of running out.

Denying the effect of the Surge is discrediting yourself..

Bush gets a TON of credit for going agianst your crowd lambasting of the Surge and even some more sane people critiques and pushing forward with it. The Surge has UNDENIABLY garnered massive benefits for Iraq and the USA.

He was right..you where wrong.
Now instead of admitting your mistakes and giving Bush&the Surge the credit it is due. You change the goal posts and continue harping for defeat.
Thats ok..your entire side is pulling that crap atm and its falling flat with people.. almost universally ...do to a reality even the media cannot avoid anymore.

Stay the Course