"Too often, there is too little discussion about whether the remedy has been achieved, and too little agreement on objective measures that would determine it. That, to me, is the biggest failing of AA.

I will always support efforts to hammer out those criteria or have those discussions, with a bias toward ending AA programs."

the criteria that determines when the remedy has been achieved is the absence of discrimination. thats never going to happen. what determines when affirmative action gets the boot is another story.

with all the racists always making this a white vs black issue, its easy to lose sight of the fact that the primary benefactors are all previously oppressed groups (everyone but white males, basically). those who entertain the notion that minorities can overcome centuries of oppression with a few decades of forced equality are optimists.

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