U.S. NAZI citizen Peter Egner participated in murdering over 17,000 Serbians in WW2 - Page 2

Pzatchok · #11 (**permalink**) 07-20-2008, 03:23 PM

He was a 17 year old interpretor and some time guard.

Even devout Nazi guards at concentration camps (which there were thousands of guards total) didn't all go on trial for crimes.

What specifically did this boy do that set him apart from the normal guards there?

DuH2 · #12 (**permalink**) 07-20-2008, 08:11 PM

He's suspected of being a part of the camps 'einsatzgruppen'
Basically those that would go up round up, summarily execute, or in this case use a van to gas people.
IOW he personally took part in killings in one manner or another.

Every Camp had a 'unit' like this..most of the time it was just randomly picked guards. They where not even seperate units in most cases.

Some info on the camp-

Quote:

The Encyclopedia of the Holocaust states:

Mass murders of Jews took place in Jajinci, Jabuka, Zasavica (near Šabac), and Bubanj (near Niš). By December, most of the Jewish men had been killed; the rest - a group from Niš, and several hundred men had been put to work in the Sajmište camp, near Belgrade, were murdered in February and March 1942, respectively. December 1941 to May 1942. A meeting was held in Belgrade on October 20, 1941, attended by Turner, security police chief Wilhelm Fuchs, Frantz Rademacher of the German Foreign Ministry (where he was in charge of Jewish affairs), and Frantz Stuschke and SS-Obersturmbannführer Friedrich Suhr, two of Adolf Eichmann's men. At the meeting it was decided that for the time being the Jews were to be concentrated in one camp, since it was not possible to deport them to the east before the summer of 1942. Accordingly, between December 1941 and February 1942, all the Jewish women and children in Serbia - seventy-five hundred to eight thousand persons - were taken to the Sajmište camp. Conditions in the camp were very bad: the living accommodations did not shelter the inmates from the weather, sanitation was nonexistent (there was a single shower for all the prisoners, and very few toilets), and the food was bad. As a result, the mortality rate soared.[8]

The same source says further:

In the early spring of 1942 the German authorities in Serbia realized that they would not be able to deport the Jews as quickly as they had thought, and they asked Berlin to provide another solution. In late February a gas van (see gas vans) arrived in Belgrade, sent from Berlin, of the kind that had by then been tried out in Poland and in the Soviet Union. This gas van was used from March to May 1942 to kill all the Jews imprisoned in Sajmište. After that only a few Jews were left in Serbia. Most of them had been given refuge by Serbian friends or had escaped to the partisans. In November 1943 SS-Standartenführer Paul Blobel, the officer in charge of Aktion 1005, came to Belgrade in order to set up a unit that would disinter the bodies of the murder victims and burn them. The unit, consisting of fifty Sicherheitspolizei (Security Police) men and German military police, as well as 100 Jewish and Serbian prisoners, was engaged in the gruesome task of obliterating the traces of the murders up to the fall of 1944. Approximately 14,500 Serbian Jews - 90 percent of Serbia's Jewish population of 16,000 - were murdered in World War II.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sajmist...entration_camp

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The dedicated Einsatzgruppen units which operated on the Russian front/Poland/Eastern Europe are the ones most people think of(even if they know nothing about it) in regards to mass killings/shootings in the field such as that at Babi Yar outside Kiev.

Some Info- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen

Pzatchok · #13 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 05:32 PM

Suspected and being the guy they are looking for are two different things.

I'm sure you agree that it would be better to let a dozen guilty men go free than to let just one innocent man be sent to jail and possibly death.

What positive proof is given as to this mans identity?

I've been through this type of thing before in my local area.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Demjanjuk

So unless they have more and better evidence this is nothing more than a witch hunt. The man will be LONG dead before he leaves the US unless a huge amount of evidence better than just a statement and picture are provided.

Simply saying he was a member of that group is not evidence.

Guy Fawkes · #14 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bushfan

Clinton killed nearly as many Serbs and I don't see the US working to revoke his citizenship? If you need direct orders to execute the innocent, WACO should suffice.

Nazis and Progressives have the same hatred of the Jews too.

Bushfan · #15 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Guy Fawkes

Nazis and Progressives have the same hatred of the Jews too.

Quite true. They're interchangable concepts. Both strongly believe that the individual is subserviant to the group and both are truly rooted in nothing but 'left-think.'

As such, its hilarious that the Advocates of Social Science are here trumpeting the deportation and arrest of one of their own, as a way to prop up a tedious fascade that they're somehow distinct; when in fact, everyone of those denunciating this man are proponents of someone that could easily turn out to be even worse then the European socialist nigtmares.

I mean in the US Senate today, a US Senator dismissed the testimony of a climatologist with unimpeachable credentials, because he has been referenced and spoken on Rush Limbaugh's radio program; which is of course the most effective advocate of her opposition.

http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.a...5-d9f3e3dca368

This man, Dr. Roy Spencer is a principle research scientist for the University of Alabama and his expertise was dismissed not on the basis of his work, his research, his methodology; he was dismissed because of his loose associations with the Senator's political opposition.

Now this mindset is the truest essence of fascism and should B. Hussein Obama be elected to the Presidency, this kind of spurious reasoning will explode throughout the government and a storm of fascism the likes of which this century and the US has never witnessed and certainly not since FDR, will spread over the US and with that Europe; as the moderating effects of the US being contolled by at least Republicans, if not conservatives has kept the growing fascist movements in the EU at bay. But it is going to get much worse, I'm afraid.

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