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Old 01-17-2008, 08:15 PM
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"Abortion deals with killing individual human lives. The right to life, both what I am referring to and given by our constitution, referrs to individuals of the human species. Sperm has live cells but is not an individual human life."

where do you get that our constitution says anything about individual human life? can you cite something specific on this? besides, you cant deny the fact that you choose to ignore life prior, which is most definitely there and human. regardless, the process to define the eventual unborn individuals can take days or even weeks; conception isnt really instantaneous, especially not the formation of individual unborn persons (twins for example).

the animal comparisons are going on a tangent, but theyre relevant to the qualities you value in life, to consider life worth saving. the hippo demonstrated compassion in the video, plus humans can be cruel as well.

humans relate to each other, thats why they feel human lives are more valuable. but this is purely subjective when you consider their nonchalance when ending other lives, or those of other humans as they see fit. the same thing happens with animals when they become pets, people dont want to see them come to harm, meanwhile millions of animals suffer daily being raised to die for consumption and most dont mind it. im no vegetarian (love meat), btw.
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