01-26-2008, 05:34 PM
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If you live by the sword....
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Originally Posted by ashleykennedy
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Benny Morris likewise showed no proof that Israel seized that property or "stole" it as claimed. All you've managed to prove is that you prefer your own flavor of propaganda over mine.
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Originally Posted by ak
Benny Morris “The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee problem Revisited” Cambridge University Press 2004 ISBN 0-512-00967-7
Sorry the url for the E copy of the book has the dreaded smiley combo in the middle.
Benny Morris Righteous Victims: A History of the Zionist Arab conflict 1881-2001.
http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/m...s-victims.html
Most of the quotes from 1947 are spurious. The Israeli forces used quite a lot of Black propaganda which is recorded in the IDF archives. I don't have access to that but Benny Morris, Avi Shlaim and Ilan Pappe did, they also have better access to original sources so I tend to take their version of events as nearer the mark than yours SF. Sorry SF but the internet is a minefield of "counter-knowledge". It looks like you've been suckered SF.
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Yet another broken link to nowhere. Perhaps you should proof your submissions with the preview button first. (Just a suggestion)
Let's assume what you say is true. Israel "stole" their land. What's your evidence. I mean, where's the evidence that I can review? I hope you don't mind my not taking Benny's word for it just because you vouch for him.
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Originally Posted by ak
As to the offer of 95% the offer never got made and had little thing like the Jordan bank was to be given to Israel in a long lease with the rest carved up into Bantustan Ghettos by the intersection of squatter only roads with Israel administering all Palestinian National land (that way Israel could place more squatters quite legally in the West Bank). So your 95% ends up as 40% non contiguous with no national security and Israel still stealing water. That was no offer it was a blatant Israeli land grab.
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Even if your biased left-leaning version of reality is actually true, which I highly doubt, it's definitely better than what they have now... which is nothing. I honestly believe the Palestinians want what they're getting. Why else would they vote Hamas in during their last elections? Surely they're happy now... right?
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