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Old 01-26-2008, 11:18 PM
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My problem with using this amendment as justification to allow every nut to carry a gun:
It's not justifying anything. To justify implies partiality, of which the Constitution does not allow. Your idea of what a nut job is is not defining.

If you want to wrongly use the word justify in line with the Constitution fine, I'll argue that way; It also justifies every man, woman, and child (yes, child) who has picked up and used their gun in self defense over the past 200 years.

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What exists now is compeltely unregulated
I think we have different ideas of regulation. I feel having to obtain a license and be cleared through background *at least in most states* to purchase most firearms to be a rather typical and strict regulatory measure.

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This seems to indicate some form of group exists, with a command structure. Not some thug or group of thugs shooting anything that moves in the inner city.
These groups really are supposed to exist, in the ideal world, a militia of non-government men, but of course the military in it's many names and forms has taken the will of self vigilance out of most.

But I'd like you to please give me ANY valid sources of Militia shooting randomly in ANY city.

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It's rather clear that the culture that exists only goes to decrease the security of the state
Clear? To whom, you? Please explain how our culture is responsible for the fall of security in this state? The culture does not make the laws, we are governed by a group of politicians who oversee everything. We can only work with what is given to us. How can you possibly say that culture decreases security?

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There are a lot of conditions that come before this statement, or at least there are in the constitution. In practice, there are none.
Name ANY condition that has direct or indirect relation to the 2nd Amendment that in any way takes away from, adds to, or alters the meaning of it's writings.

In practice... what are none?
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