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That's a old, tired and false slippery slope argument. I've already said I support restrictions on late-term abortion, and those restrictions strengthen into a ban upon birth.
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An old tired argument that you apparently won't try to rebut. How about the woman in a coma in florida they unplugged? It was the same language - she's "not really a human being". The technique of making someone killable by "defining" them out of the human family was invented by the nazis. They called the jews
untermenschen, subhumans. In doing so, they weren't merely giving an insult, they were encouraging people to see them as not human, so that citizens of the country with the heritage of Martin Luther could bring themselves to kill millions of them. The same mental techniques was used with slaves in the old south - don't worry what we do to them - they're not really human.
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You may not see a difference between an embryo/zygote/morula/blastocyst and a 70-year-old, but I do.
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How about the difference between a 70-year-old and a 8.5 month fetus? An 8 month fetus? A 7 month fetus? Ooooooooooo, I can just FEEL it - now you're going to give me a magic cutoff point.
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Maybe you want to live in a world where women are forced to carry unwanted babies or babies with severe birth defects to term. I don't.
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Why - because those people if born would live unworthy lives (to use the nazi phrase)? Then are the people alive with those maladies living unworthy lives? Then why not kill them, too?
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I frankly don't think that's any of my (or the government's) business -- until the baby develops sufficiently that it can survive on its own, at which point it starts to accumulate legal rights.
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Oh, THERE'S the magic cutoff point. Do you want to be the first of maybe 100 pro-abortionists I've asked to justify that, to actually do it?
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A truly conservative approach would be to let early-term abortion be legal, but mount campaigns to persuade pregnant women not to choose that option. Instead, social conservatives want to use the law to force everyone to accept their view of when human life begins.
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How about what's truly liberal? Aren't liberals the people who care about the weak, the helpless, the people who are deprived of rights? Shouldn't YOU be lecturing ME about the rights of fetuses??