Maybe you would like to reserve an online arena somewhere so you can duke it out with Ashley- in private, preferably!? In the meantime, the topic is about Suharto. He murdered a third of the population of E.Timor which may not be the highest body count but it is way up there - top honors for % of the population murdered: well done Suharto!! And take note that U.S.administrations of every stripe were guilty of supporting him. I listened to a question/answer with Richard Holbrook. He was unable to articulate a good reason for ongoing U.S. military support for Suharto.