Barack Obama: The Next President of the United States - Page 5

alexg · #41 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by t206

In my life I have never listened to Rush, and to dispell more stupid stereotypes, I dont watch fox news either.

I disagree with Obama on FISA, I disagree with Obama on Universal Health Care, I disagree with Obama on his view on the right to bear arms, I disagree with Obama on his income tax plans, I disagree with Obama on his plans to increase taxes on corporations, I disagree with Obama on his plans to increase the capital gains taxes...and one thing that isnt a quantifiable "policy" is just that in general I dont see how he can promise all of these programs and change without much realistic talk of how he can DRASTICALLY decrease our spending.

Good response! Although I disagree with YOU, I applaud the fact that you were able come up with reasons for your dislike of Sen. Obama, instead of the snarls and grunts that are so common from the far right on this forum.

t206 · #42 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by alexg

Good response! Although I disagree with YOU, I applaud the fact that you were able come up with reasons for your dislike of Sen. Obama, instead of the snarls and grunts that are so common from the far right on this forum.

Thanks. Keep in mind though that not all non-Obama supporters are "far right" or for McCain for that matter. Ive got serious issues with him too.
It drives me nuts when I question an Obama position and the response is always "Oh yeah, well McCain isnt any better" So thanks for understanding my position.

katiegrrl0 · #43 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by White Fox

Why would anyone be jealous of a crowd of Germans showing up to support someone running for the American presidency?

I think it's a nice thing to have any Europeans say anything nice about an American at all these days.

Chancellor Merkel said she liked his speech. The American electorate will see this as a postive for Obama. It is campaigning in Germany to show what he can do on the global stage.

0000 · #44 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by t206

Im not sure what you are trying to suggest with this?

people often look to their leaders as icons to solve all of their problems. they look for political saviours. but it's necessary for each individual to be active in the world if they desire to change it.

t206 · #45 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 0000

people often look to their leaders as icons to solve all of their problems. they look for political saviours. but it's necessary for each individual to be active in the world if they desire to change it.

Um, ok...but your quote:

"he suggests that he can inspire others to act along with him."

doesnt do much along those lines for me. I can suggest that I can inspire others to do anything I want...there is no substance behind the clame...or very little if not none.

0000 · #46 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by t206

I can suggest that I can inspire others to do anything I want...

such as? can you give an example?

t206 · #47 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 0000

such as? can you give an example?

You arent getting it. My point is that "suggesting he can inspire" doesnt mean anything. Just words.

White Fox · #48 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by katiegrrl0

I think it's a nice thing to have any Europeans say anything nice about an American at all these days.

Chancellor Merkel said she liked his speech. The American electorate will see this as a postive for Obama. It is campaigning in Germany to show what he can do on the global stage.

Sure, it's a "nice" thing.

But no one should be elected president simply because they will do a "nice" thing for us.

When looking for a person who should be president of the United States, you cannot vote for a candidate just because they might bring a "nice" thing to us, you must look at every issue for all candidates, analyze the importance, positions, and possible effects of those positions, and then determine the net benefit of each candidate.

I would probably even support Obama if he got rid of his populist voodoo economic policies and big government "for your own good" schemes. But then he wouldn't be a "progressive."

0000 · #49 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by t206

You arent getting it. My point is that "suggesting he can inspire" doesnt mean anything. Just words.

your negativity is only expressed in the context of your own faithlessness. are you unaware how to translate words into action?

t206 · #50 (**permalink**) 07-25-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 0000

your negativity is only expressed in the context of your own faithlessness. are you unaware how to translate words into action?

I'm "negative" because I cant see the "how" part of Mr. Obama's plan? The actual execution rather than words? THAT makes me negative?

I dont want "faith" in a candidate, I want confidence, reliability, accountability, and a plan.

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