Blade,
In your posts the word “analyst” appears under your name. Nice to see that this forum has a sense of humor. Why? Let’s look at the following in an attempt to elevate the debate on this very important theme to above that of name-calling, insults, empty rhetoric and pre-Logic 101 reasoning:
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Originally Posted by Fear-And-Loathing
Sorry to upset your 'American-centric' viewpoint of the world, get off the couch and look at the world around you.
So dya think that the support of Dictator's during the Cold War was right? Ask the people of Nicaragua, Iran, Chile, Vietnam and most of South America if they had a good time during the Cold War. The fact was and is that we would support who ever opposed Communism, so be it if they were Far-Right nutjobs. As long as we had more Client States than the Soviets during the whole period we would win. Because more countries were integrated into our economic network, we won.
This is why the world is upset with us, and why a US vs. The World mentality has arisen. We are a hypocrisy. The world expects more of us, we are the 'City on the Hill' we defeated tyrannical empires time and time again. But then we resorted to methods that were against what we supposedly stood for.
Come on Blade, show me hard facts that everyone in Chile liked Pinochet, tell me the Iranians like the Shah, tell Nicaraguans approved of the Contra's
Stop living in a delushioned world Blade. Your arrogance is a testament to your true character
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Originally Posted by Blade
Somebody has stuffed your unfortunate skull with all the standard anti-american canards, (things that I dismissed when I was about 18 ) and you didn't have the IQ and/or knowledge to perform any contraception.  You need to get past the standard leftwing slogans and study the history of those events in at least a moderate depth, so you won't be laughed off the stage every where you open your mouth around other than the uninformed. |
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Originally Posted by Fear-And-Loathing
Right, we supported the Shah in Iran because he kept the country from falling into Communist hands. Why did this matter? Because Iran has the 5th Largest reserves of oil in the world. We maintained this brutal dictator for no other reason.
We supported Pinochet and many other South American dictators because we have so much economic interest in the area. If it fail to Communism, we would lose all this business. So when Communist insurgencies broke out, we backed the only alternative, Far Right guerillas.
If the US stands for spreading democracy and opposing dictators, then why do we trade with China, Russia and Saudi Arabia? Why do we allow Robert Mugabe to stay in power? Why did we allow the Rwandan massacre to happen? Why did we allow the Afghani's to be oppressed, oh yeah they showed how p*ssed off they were.......
Is this all a lie? No. Your very ignorant Blade to not know about this. Oh yeah, I forgot you choose to ignore it. That's how you justify your decadent Western lifestyle. I lead the same lifestyle but I know full well how it is maintained. I know full well there needs to be change. But you don't care, what a great Human you are
The world doesn't like us because of people like you and your attitude. There's a world outside America Blade. People are oppressed to maintain our lifestyle. |
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Originally Posted by Blade
You have memorized the Encyclopedia of Anti-American BS, and all I can do is laugh at you. |
Now, look at the analytical content of these posts of yours, Blade. Correct, there isn’t any. You just make subjective statements without any support. Yet you appear to be proud of your own contributions but derogatory of those who quote examples. Maybe you can stop with the personal insults and instead, improve the quality of your posts.
You appear to hold your intellectual analysis in high esteem, but your documentation of your thinking is empty, and yet you accuse others of being childlike and simple-minded. Perhaps you should ask yourself “Who is showing simple-mindedness?"
You revel in your historical appreciation and your debating skills. But all that you do is insult people whose contributions are far superior to yours (“unfortunate skull; don’t have the IQ; simple-minded; etc).
Thanks for the refereeing Ziggy. The score at half-time in this thread is:
Fear-and-Loathing 10 – Blade 0.5
So instead of making us read through your baseless statements of faith, why don’t we get back to the theme of this thread, and if you have support for your contention that F-and-L’s rebuttal on the Shah is simply anti-American BS, prove it Blade. Because my reading over 3 decades tells me that he is spot on the number.
The second half is about to begin. You have the ball Blade. Let’s try to make this a debate and not a baseless soliloquy - OK? Blade, you were saying about the Shah ...... ? Remind us what the US did in post-1953, why we did it, and, perehaps, what effect it might have had on events there in 1979. Then relate this to this type of analysis being mindless anti-American BS. Or have a go at F-andL's example of Chile in the mid-1970's