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Old 02-05-2008, 08:32 PM
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its not a factually inaccurate statement. it does contain a fantastic story with no supporting evidence. context is important, and if you read my posts in this thread, in order, youll see that the context i described is consistent with the record.

gay rights isnt what motivates me to discredit the bible - to be honest, i dont think theres much of anything to discredit in the first place, as long as its kept in its place. my disbelief in the bible is really irrelevant to my main concern which is the legislation of religion. siding with faith over science, and essentially doing away with it (e.g., creationism in classrooms).


your examples of betterment (aside from the gay converts) are touching, but such things occur for people with no faith. inclusively, people of faith can commit reprehensible acts rivaling those of nonbelievers. those points arent conclusive for me.

"My point here is that I was also a man who searched long and hard to find an intellectual excuse for my moral life."

an intellectual excuse for your moral life? im not sure what you mean exactly. are you saying you couldnt rationalize being a good person without religion? im not sure if youre implying that im searching for some meaning in that sense, but im not. im able to appreciate and understand life just fine without religion. i used to be a christian, and i have given the bible a serious look - several, actually. oddly enough, the more i learned, the less it made sense. and here we are.
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